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Top Gear, Non-fiction TV, 2016-2018

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dsl SX

2016-05-29 22:46

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New page opened for Top Gear Series 23 onwards (starting May 2016). No imdb number entered yet until we decide how to handle it (as imdb haven't split it from previous series). I've opened the page, but do not intend to contribute entries or stake a claim to the new series.

So let the fun begin.

antp BE

2016-05-29 22:58

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Indeed it is better to separate it. Maybe later IMDb will also make a separate page, like what they did for the 1978-2001 series (if I remember well, it was originally listed on IMDb together with the 2002+ version).

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-05-29 23:25

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dsl wrote

So let the fun begin.



What fun might that be then?

chicomarx BE

2016-05-29 23:53

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I'm hoping it fails.

James May did this "Reassembler" program on BBC Four. That was actually great fun.

dragonboy AU

2016-05-30 01:41

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I agree with having a separate page for the new era, cos the other one was HUGE. But I dont think there will be a separate IMDb page. For all accounts and purposes in terems of IMDb standards. Its still technically the same show. The season and episode structure has continued on from where it finished off. 22 Seasons of Clarson, and the Evans era starts from 23.

dsl SX

2016-05-30 01:46

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dragonboy wrote the Evans era starts from 23.

... and hopefully finishes with 23 as just a passing blip in TG's history. And that they get someone who isn't so full of himself and is actually funny to replace him for 24 onwards.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-05-30 08:33

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They'll replace him with Naga Munchetty, she's rubbish as well. Or maybe that Welsh woman who shouts all the time, typical BBC, and it's about time they got rid of Pointless, they always flog things to death then try to revive them.

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dragonboy AU

2016-05-30 12:54

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First episode is up.
As an honest review, Matt isnt too bad, i can get behind him. The reviews and segments show promise. Evans on the other is just plain annoying. Hes trying way too hard to be funny and loud, and its just irritating. Want to see more of Sabine, she drove the vette.

dsl SX

2016-05-30 16:18

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Just in case anyone from TG is checking to see what we think, some thoughts:
- I can't stand Chris Evans - he's far too much of an onscreen ego who has to hog the attention all the time, and he's nothing like as funny as he thinks he is. But, to try and be helpful, Jeremy could also be incredibly irritating, but compensated for it by being fairly laid back and laconic, so carried it off. Get Chris to slow down and let the others come through as equals, not just sidekicks. Also get him to cut down on the constant stream of "Wows" and schoolboy noises of excitement. And stop fixing it so that he has to win every contest.
- think about what the features are trying to achieve. The Rialtos to Blackpool thing was OK but didn't really go anywhere (apart from Blackpool). Towing dead Rialtos up a hill with the Jeep and Landie distracted from what could have been an interesting contest between 2 classic 4wds without being diluted. The Corvette/Viper comparison would have stood up on its own without all the laser gun stupidity, which again diluted interest and direction. The Atom feature was just silly - again what did it achieve??.
- putting Gordon Ramsey and that other bloke together didn't work, especially when they had to read out who the other one was. I still don't know who the other bloke was.
- ration yourselves on how much you need to have the audience whooping and hollering all the time. It seemed they had to do it every time Chris spoke. Why?? It began to feel like a 1970s Saturday morning kids show, or even like Crackerjack when 8 year olds had to shout Crackerjack every time the word was mentioned.
- not sure yet about Matt, but give him the space to develop his onscreen personna as himself, not just a sidekick.
- finally, remember some at least of your audience are petrolheads. We still want to know about the cars as cars, with their good points and bad ones. Review them with some decent comments, instead of just quoting the press sheets about how zoomy they are or swooning about high tech gizmos.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-05-30 18:10

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I think you are hoping for too much. The program commissioning twerps at the BBC are obsessed with "personality" and consider anything that approaches technical as blokey (for which James May is the go to talking head), or too boring for the audience at which this programme (TG) is now aimed. As an example of their attitude, I went through all the BBC's arcane complaints routine to complain about a one hour sailing presentation in the 2012 Olympics during which there was 15 minutes of actual sailing and 45 minutes of talking head personality stuff. When my complaint received just a BBC standard response I took it further, the result being a letter from the producer's secretary saying nothing more than "your complaint isn't accepted, this is how we do it and we know best." They further compounded their arrogance by saying that if I wrote again it would be ignored.

BBC criteria for commissioning are now: -

How cheaply can we do it?
How many of our staff payroll "celebrities" can we use?
How many times can we repeat it?
How many of the unwashed fools out there (how they think of the people who pay the licence fee) will watch it?

Rant over.

-- Last edit: 2016-05-31 11:46:06

G-MANN UK

2016-05-30 21:54

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It felt pretty lifeless. Matt LeBlanc was very wooden and seemed out of place (I don't mean to be xenophobic because he's American). There was no chemistry between him and Chris Evans. Evans I don't really have anything against but he does have an annoying voice.

To be fair, Clarkson, Hammond and May's purile "antics" were getting pretty stale and staged. But I don't think I've ever been more bored by an episode of Top Gear. Even the way it was edited at times didn't seem right somehow, like during the challenges they were zipping through everything too quickly and losing all the fun. I don't think adding an offroad section to the Star in a Reasonably Priced Car lap worked either.

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G-MANN UK

2016-05-30 21:58

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dsl wrote I still don't know who the other bloke was.


Jesse Eisenberg, Hollywood actor who played Mark Zuckerberg in 2011 Oscar contender The Social Network and now plays Lex Luthor (yes, really) in some of Hollywood's current stream of tentpole movies based on superhero comics.

-- Last edit: 2016-05-30 22:06:19

tali UK

2016-05-30 22:01

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No better or worse than previous TG.To my surprise , i thought " Meh" Matt LeBlanc was rather good and funny.TG Extra , Chris Harris was awkward in a three -way conversation i found

G-MANN UK

2016-05-30 22:03

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antp wrote Indeed it is better to separate it. Maybe later IMDb will also make a separate page, like what they did for the 1978-2001 series (if I remember well, it was originally listed on IMDb together with the 2002+ version).


Or the current series doesn't work out and they rehire Clarkson, Hammond and May.

Baube QC

2016-05-30 22:06

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G-MANN wrote

Jesse Eisenberg, Hollywood actor who played Mark Zuckerberg in 2011 Oscar contender The Social Network and now plays Lex Luthor (yes, really) in some of us Hollywood's current stream tentpole superhero movies.

He also killed some zombies ( and Bill Murray ) in Zombieland

-- Last edit: 2016-05-30 22:10:52

Gamer DE

2016-05-30 22:25

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Who was the guy again who was only on the first season of New TG and was replaced by James in Season 2? They should have used him instead. Or maybe even good old Tiff Needell.

opal TH

2016-05-31 21:29

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Glad this made a new page for it. The new show now is almost completely different and pretty suck. They really trying to make funny comments and jokes, but didn't work well at all. Plus.... the challenges is pretty lame and lose all the fun. I Hope this show lose all the audience and get cancel by the end of the season.

JCB UK

2016-06-04 16:08

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Gamer wrote Who was the guy again who was only on the first season of New TG and was replaced by James in Season 2? They should have used him instead. Or maybe even good old Tiff Needell.


Jason Dawe

The Autocar roadtest article he wrote here is very good :)
Link to "forums.finalgear.com"

michail2003 UA

2016-06-26 20:17

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:( New TG is boring :(

dragonboy AU

2016-06-27 14:35

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While i do appreciate the help, can i ask who added the fields for the most recent cars that i just added the pics for.

G-MANN UK

2016-06-28 00:11

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I did.

rtsbusman1997 US

2016-06-28 02:04

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My mother told me that there were some rumors floating around that even Matt wants Evans gone. No shocker, considering ive heard literally nothing good about him.

chicomarx BE

2016-06-28 02:46

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Yes, they're fighting.
"Matt LeBlanc threatens to leave Top Gear unless ‘jealous’ Chris Evans replaced"
"Loudmouth host Chris Evans has Top Gear screen time cut by half as BBC show’s ratings continue to tumble."
A show source said: “The big question now is who goes and who stays.
The team does not gel at all, and the atmosphere between the presenters is decidedly frosty. It’s very much a picture of him – Chris – and them."

Sandie SX

2016-07-04 16:48

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Evans has quit.

dsl SX

2016-07-04 17:00

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Farage and Evans on the same day ....
[Image: jumping_smiley16.gif]

Sandie SX

2016-07-04 17:14

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No new host they're saying. Guess that means LeBlanc is the new main man.

night cub US

2016-07-04 18:04

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Well, you still have Joey. "How you doin?"

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-07-04 18:26

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Farage has no doubt accepted an offer to return to commodity broking and, with the present volatility partly consequent upon his actions, he will have the chance to make more money than most folk can dream of. Obviously he had a long term plan. Don't believe bankers who talk about not liking changing market conditions, they love them.

As far as new TG is concerned, I don't care because I haven't watched any.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-07-04 19:36

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Quote: -

"Uncertainty creates opportunities"

Gisele Stewart MP Lab. Edgbaston. BBC Midlands Today 6.35pm this evening.

-- Last edit: 2016-07-04 19:37:06

chicomarx BE

2016-07-05 01:21

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Sandie wrote No new host they're saying.

[Image: betlarge.jpg]
Steve Coogan is a 4 to 1 bet, which would actually be an interesting choice. Sign him and get Rob Brydon for free.

Sandie SX

2016-07-05 01:33

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Curbs at (considerably) shorter odds than Leicester were to win the league. Surely worth a bet?

dsl SX

2016-07-05 03:03

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How about an imcdb team nomination?? I'd vote for a coalition of ingo, jfs and DidierF.

Baube QC

2016-07-05 03:05

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it's better than my idea.. since Rowan Atkinson is in the list... Mr. Bean.. ;)
With Teddy, of course... :D

-- Last edit: 2016-07-05 03:06:56

Sandie SX

2016-07-05 03:10

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dsl wrote How about an imcdb team nomination?? I'd vote for a coalition of ingo, jfs and DidierF.


Or cl82 so he can drop a piano on an Avenger.

night cub US

2016-07-05 06:22

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Sandie wrote

Or cl82 so he can drop a piano on an Avenger.

Hillman or Dodge? (or does it really matter?)

Baube QC

2016-07-05 06:39

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would be tempted to save the Dodge if it has a sunroof ( missing my sunroof very very much... ) ;)

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-07-05 13:26

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Delighted to receive the nomination, but I fear that my driving style, (and skills) may not be up to it. I have never put my Bentley into a four wheel drift!

mike962 DE

2016-07-05 16:05

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why is this crap show still even listed on IMCDB ?

dsl SX

2016-07-05 16:39

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Because it's too famous to ignore. And lots of imcdbists follow it and want to see it posted. It's called democracy.

mike962 DE

2016-07-05 17:45

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but it's not really "Top Gear" anymore !! just some crap pretending to be Top Gear

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dsl SX

2016-07-05 19:11

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Now I can agree with you. But it should improve with the departure of "one of Britain's greatest TV presenters" (as he was described on t'wireless recently with no hint of sarcasm - which says it all really. A bit like being described as the most talented stylist at Lexus.). And we are not really quality threshold enforcers.

Nightrider RU

2016-07-05 19:33

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dsl wrote "one of Britain's greatest TV presenters"


Who???

dsl SX

2016-07-06 02:20

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Chris "Shouty" Evans.

Nightrider RU

2016-07-06 04:37

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dsl wrote Chris "Shouty" Evans.


Uh, got it. I was thinking about Clarkson)

ingo DE

2016-07-06 21:34

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dsl wrote How about an imcdb team nomination?? I'd vote for a coalition of ingo, jfs and DidierF.

johnfromstaffs wrote Delighted to receive the nomination, but I fear that my driving style, (and skills) may not be up to it. I have never put my Bentley into a four wheel drift!

Sandie wrote Or cl82 so he can drop a piano on an Avenger.

:think: Well, an aprt idea - IMCDb goes television. Why not? Our knowledge is bigger than of the most other "experts", even the TG-blokes, and due our international network we have everywhere some special precious items by the hand.


dsl wrote Because it's too famous to ignore. And lots of imcdbists follow it and want to see it posted. It's called democracy.

The best way of having a leadership (of a company, a club, an internet-forum or whatever) is the stalinistic interpretation of democracy. As the legendary words of this hardcore-stalinist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Ulbricht
said by entering the ruin of the Third Reich in Spring 1945, directly sent by Stalin himself: "It has to look democratic, but we always must keep anything in our hands"

ingo DE

2016-07-06 21:44

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johnfromstaffs wrote Farage has no doubt accepted an offer to return to commodity broking and, with the present volatility partly consequent upon his actions, he will have the chance to make more money than most folk can dream of. Obviously he had a long term plan. Don't believe bankers who talk about not liking changing market conditions, they love them.

The adjective-adaption "faraged" has in German the identical pronounciation as "verarscht" = "pranked", "punked"

michail2003 UA

2016-07-14 12:35

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New Clarkson, May and Hammond show: The Grand Tour

dsl SX

2016-07-19 22:55

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^ Now that May is Prime Minister and Hammond is Chancellor of the Exchequer, Clarkson's feeling lonely.

dsl SX

2016-09-22 14:39

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Ripples from The Great British Bake Off defection from BBC to Channel 4 for £25m. Saint Mary Berry will not be a judge on The Great British Bake Off when it moves, saying she's loyal to the BBC for nurturing her and the show. But Paul Hollywood's jumping ship to follow the big money, despite apparently being offered a role on Top Gear if he stayed with the BBC.

So TG had a narrow escape from another irritatingly smarmy self-inflating presenter. But it's sad that a TG role has become a bargaining chip for contract negotiations with Big Names To Attract Headline Coverage instead of trying to find folk who would genuinely enhance the show.

chicomarx BE

2016-09-22 18:59

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It will be impossible for the BBC to construct a team artificially, like The Monkees, and have the same interactions. It has to grow organically.

When Clarkson created the new Top Gear he chose the other two presenters himself, Hammond, he made a mistake with Jason Dawe, then May. So he was the undisputed leader. Chris Evans can't just take over that role, without other presenters struggling for power.

dsl SX

2017-03-29 23:05

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We're all being very quiet about the new series - are imcdbists watching it? Or has it slipped below the radar now? For what it's worth, I think it's more subdued now - a bit clunky at first as they got used to each other but getting better. More attention on getting the basics right without big screen-egos and too much brainless stupidity - walking properly before they start trying to run. So worth watching again.

johnfromstaffs EN

2017-03-30 09:01

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I've seen the trailers, (who hasn't if you ever watch BBC1?), so far nothing trailed has made me want to watch the programme.

michail2003 UA

2017-04-24 06:06

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New intro's cool

yeong77744 KR

2017-06-07 16:27

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http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/view?code=nnews&No=174071&bm=1
The Korean article about Ssangyacht, which is based on Ssangyong Rodius in S24 ep7

night cub US

2017-06-08 02:34

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yeong77744 wrote http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/view?code=nnews&No=174071&bm=1
The Korean article about Ssangyacht, which is based on Ssangyong Rodius in S24 ep7

I believe dragonboy is working this series. Dragonboy, are you continuing?

-- Last edit: 2017-06-08 02:37:56

dsl SX

2017-06-08 03:50

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Funny how things change - 2-3 months without anything happening, 5 episodes still to post from S24, and no-one's noticed. It wasn't too many years ago that there'd be a riot if an episode wasn't posted within 10 minutes of being broadcast ...

michail2003 UA

2017-10-17 21:01

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I think it should be merged with 2002 series

Inspiron31 PL

2017-12-16 20:56

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No, it should not. The old Top Gear was different from the new "Top Gear", as you can see by the previous comments on this page.

dsl SX

2017-12-16 21:11

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If anyone's still interested enough to care, we could declare the page open for anyone to come in and finish series 24 (so far only eps 1 and 2 done of 7). Series 25 seems to be on its way in 2-3 months, so it would be useful to clear the decks before that arrives.

the sad biker UK

2017-12-17 00:17

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Seems no-one's bothered, I gave the 1st show half an hour (see comments on Evans above) and find that Leblanc, who struggles to read from an autocue, has all the charisma of a drainpipe.

I'm surprised the Beeb hasn't given the show to one of the resident lesbians, they're on every bloody thing else.

-- Last edit: 2017-12-17 00:57:52

walter IT

2018-01-07 13:31

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@power: are you going to upload these two pics from random episodes only (this in particular /vehicle_1101094-Porsche-718-Cayman-S-2016.html looks weird, seems a still downloaded from some site or it's somehow cropped)? This page still lacks episodes captures from 24.03 on, is someone really interested in doing them in a more usual serious way?

walter IT

2018-02-09 13:22

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@opal: as serious TG provider, would you like to complete the remaining episodes of that?

opal TH

2018-02-09 13:39

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Maybe.... I'm still disappointed at this crap. Will see about that.

ALMF-3512 CN

2018-03-28 05:55

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the S25 is really brilliant as a car show,the new trio needs some time,current formation is stable,but still needs lots to work on

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holden nut AU

2018-07-09 09:02

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Stopped watching Top Gear, it's rubbish compared to when Clarkson Hammond & May were there, & they were better presenters.

-- Last edit: 2018-07-09 09:03:32

dsl SX

2018-10-22 13:32

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Series 26 due for broadcast early 2019 and will be Matt Leblanc's final series. New line up for S27 announced as Paddy McGuinness and Andrew Flintoff joining current presenter Chris Harris, with Rory Reid relegated to smaller role. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45937945

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