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antp ◊ 2006-11-15 13:42	Title field is 1 character too short to put the whole title as alternative English title (French one fits in the field, strange) For everyone's information, (if you can't be bothered to click on the IMDb link) the full title of the film is "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan". -- Last edit: 2008-01-14 16:08:32 (G-MANN)
G-MANN ◊ 2006-11-15 14:13	"Borat" is a shortened title, like "Dr. Strangelove" because the full titles of both films are too long to refer to quickly. Strangelove is listed with it's full title in the main title field, should this be too? The only thing is the full title doesn't quite fit, any way of expanding the field? It's funny how these new comedy films have long titles like Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy, Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story and Talledega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby. -- Last edit: 2006-11-15 14:23:48
wickey ◊ 2006-11-15 14:26	I vote for expanding if possible.. as we can list it in the way as it is on imdb..
Alexander ◊ 2006-11-15 15:06	G-MANN a écrit ... It's funny how these new comedy films have long titles ... Not only new ones! If you expand the field make it long enough for this one: Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines, or How I Flew from London to Paris in 25 hours 11 minutes
antp ◊ 2006-11-15 16:27	wickey a écrit I vote for expanding if possible.. as we can list it in the way as it is on imdb.. I included the expanded part of the title as alternative title for two resons: - to have few extra characters as the field was too short - I do not really want to have to expand this field each time some strange people decide to release a movie with a new longer title - in French it was displayed as: "Borat (Leçons culturelles sur l'Amérique pour profit glorieuse nation Kazakhstan)" instead of the current "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Ka (Borat : Leçons culturelles sur l'Amérique pour profit glorieuse nation Kaza)". I already did similar things for other movies where a part was common between French & English. I am not sure that it have any worthiness of including a so long title directly here in the title of the page. It makes it more difficult to read (and a part is even missing). As Alexander mentionned it, there are others movies where the title was shortened. I think we should just list it as "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America" and precise full title in first comment. -- Last edit: 2006-11-15 16:33:31
ben68 ◊ 2006-11-15 16:38	Just an info "for free", a french movie with a quite long title : "C'est pas parce qu'on a rien à dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0155581/) Update: and "Le cri du cormoran, le soir, au dessus des jonques" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065589/) -- Last edit: 2006-11-15 16:45:29
antp ◊ 2006-11-15 16:46	Another one with long title: movie.php?id=116126 Currently length is 75 characters. Shall I put 100? But what when we will have a title a little longer than that? And with already 50 or more it does not display very well, especially with an alternative title on its side ben68 a écrit Just an info "for free", a french movie with a quite long title : "C'est pas parce qu'on a rien à dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0155581/) We have one with a title that has exactly the same length: movie.php?id=65686 And 1 less: movie.php?id=63395
Alexander ◊ 2006-11-15 17:04	antp a écrit ... Currently length is 75 characters. Shall I put 100? ... If you decide to change it, change it to 105 (see above!)
LeboviciAB84 ◊ 2006-11-15 17:29	The Persecution And Assassination Of Jean-Paul Marat As Performed By The Inmates Of The Asylum Of Charenton Under The Direction Of The Marquis De Sade. There's a long title. (See also: Another Demonstration Of The Cliff-Guibert Fire Hose Reel, Showing A Young Girl Coming From An Office, Detaching Hose, Running With It 60 Feet, And Playing A Stream, All Inside Of 30 Seconds; The Lemon Grove Kids Meet The Green Grasshopper And The Vampire Lady from Outer Space; Elvis Is Alive! I Swear I Saw Him Eating Ding Dongs Outside The Piggly Wiggly's; I Killed My Lesbian Wife, Hung Her On A Meat Hook, And Now I Have A Three-Picture Deal At Disney; The Man With The Smallest Penis In Existence And The Electron Microscope Technician Who Loved Him; Un Fatto Di Sangue Nel Commune Di Sculiana Fra Due Uomini Per Causa Di Una Vedova Si Sospetano Moventi Politici. Amore-Morte-Shimmy. Lugano Belle. Tarantelle. Tarallucci E Vino; Night Of The Day Of The Dawn Of The Son Of The Bride Of The Return Of The Revenge Of The Terror Of The Attack Of The Evil, Mutant, Alien, Flesh Eating, Hellbound, Zombified Living Dead Part 2: In Shocking 2-D. There are a whole fifty films with longer titles than Borat.) -- Last edit: 2006-11-15 17:38:00
G-MANN ◊ 2006-11-15 17:55	Would expanding the title field make much difference, would it take up more site memory or anything?
antp ◊ 2006-11-15 21:36	I do not know exactly what are the consequences of longer fields. I guess that when it is longer it is a little slower, but I am not even sure (as long as it is under 256 characters). For sure it takes a little more space, but as the number of titles in the database is reduced this does not change much. But as I said above, is it really interesting to have so long titles? (except for the fact of being 100% accurate) -- Last edit: 2006-11-15 21:36:30
G-MANN ◊ 2006-11-15 22:24	If expanding the character limit for the title field isn't going to cause any problems I don't see why we shouldn't do it. It's nice to be accurate, isn't it.
wickey ◊ 2006-11-15 22:41	I agree.
antp ◊ 2006-11-15 23:00	But these long titles do not look so nice, they destroy the page layout
Ddey65 ◊ 2006-12-10 00:10	Speaking of long titles, have you ever considered adding any cars from "The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds"(1972)? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068528/ -- Last edit: 2006-12-10 00:10:38
antp ◊ 2006-12-10 00:36	What about http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0230575/ ? Note that for this one the title was so long (more than 200 characters) that IMDB didn't use the full title. The complete title is listed in the "akas". For that reason I think that we could do the same for very long titles, i.e. shorten them. Or I could also just put the maximum allowed length for this kind of text fields for the title field, i.e. 255 or 256 characters. There is also http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475343/ that is quite long Others here: http://www.listology.com/content_show.cfm/content_id.11785
landrover1 ◊ 2006-12-10 01:48	sorry to change the main theme-long titles-but someone watch this movie?
IRT_BMT_IND ◊ 2006-12-21 22:25
no_car ◊ 2006-12-21 22:43	Last ZAZ pic is from in old Estonian(USSR) commercial zaz commercial another interesting with old cars link -- Last edit: 2006-12-22 10:08:31
wickey ◊ 2006-12-21 22:59	IRT_BMT_IND a écrit these has to be added to main cars I believe they are parts of themovie.
landrover1 ◊ 2006-12-28 18:19	wickey a écrit these has to be added to main cars I believe they are parts of themovie. you are right at least as a background cars
Weasel1984 ◊ 2007-01-14 18:15	What a racist piece of... Why Kazahstan?!
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-01-14 18:39	Weasel1984 a écrit What a racist piece of... Why Kazahstan?! Because no-one knows anything about Kazakhstan, so Sacha Baron-Cohen can say what he likes about it and throw in all kinds of clichés about eastern Europe. And apparently he uses Polish words when he's pretending to speak Kazakh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat#Lingo Citation * Dzienkuje - "thank you." Sometimes used as a greeting in the opening of the Borat segments of Da Ali G Show (from the Polish "Dziękuję"). Also spelled as "Chenquieh" when written by Borat, e.g., his speech on the Kazakh embassy. * Jagshemash - "how are you?" (from the Polish "Jak się masz?", the Czech "Jak se máš?"). Returning to Central Asia, the Uyghur greeting "yahşimusiz" means "are you well?", and in Uzbek it's "yaxshimisiz." Perhaps ironically, especially in light of Borat's views on Uzbeks, "yaxshi emas" means "not good/well" in Uzbek. * Dzien Dobre! - sometimes used in place of above greeting, is Polish for "Good Day!." It is also the greeting of Baron Cohen's Borat prototype character Kristo, as well as the greeting used by Borat as he opens the segment in his movie where he is about to meet Pamela.
antp ◊ 2007-01-14 18:43	Gag Halfrunt a écrit all kinds of clichés about eastern Europe Though Kazakhstan is rather in the Middle-East or Central Asia, no? -- Last edit: 2007-01-14 18:44:51
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-01-14 18:46	antp a écrit Though Kazakhstan is rather in the Middle-East or Central Asia, no? Indeed, but the fictional Kazakhstan of Borat, who hates Jews and Gypsies, seems to have more in common with stereotypes of eastern Europe.
Weasel1984 ◊ 2007-01-14 18:56	They've used a real Kazakh flag, also we can see the map at the beginning. Borat saying some Polish words, because seems that guys which made this movie knows completely NOTHING about Kazakhstan. It isn't fair to do something like that to any nation. Why Masha Raron Sohon can't make a movie about fictional country if as you said most of people (I don't know where?!) never heard about Kazakhstan?! -- Last edit: 2007-01-14 20:36:21
antp ◊ 2007-01-14 19:01	Gag Halfrunt a écrit more in common with stereotypes of eastern Europe. Maybe because Kazakhstan is not known enough here to even have some clichés
wickey ◊ 2007-01-15 00:32	well what can you do.. :roll: If I will be from Kazachstan, I really would be pissed.. But the same thing is with Hostel - Bratislava is portrayed as total s*ithole town + all slovak girls as cheap whores and men as mafia types / weirdos.. -______-
Hecubus ◊ 2007-01-15 00:48	I think it's more the idea that he's taken the western society's stereotypical view of what Kazakhstan is like, and turned it into a character; in other words, it's not so much he wants to reinforce the stereotype, as he wants to show the ignorance of those who buy the stereotype as a real person. But I'm not sure at what level the humour is supposed to run.
stronghold ◊ 2007-01-25 12:15	I rewatched this last night (done captures this morning), so will be adding all the missing background vehicles today (including dvd quality pics of the missing three previously added to the comments by:- IRT BMT IND) -- Last edit: 2007-01-25 12:15:40
G-MANN ◊ 2007-01-26 00:16	Does Borat have the structure of a road movie (lots of travelling around)?
wickey ◊ 2007-01-26 00:26	G-MANN a écrit Does Borat have the structure of a road movie (lots of travelling around)? yes, basically it does
G-MANN ◊ 2007-08-31 17:52	Hecubus a écrit I think it's more the idea that he's taken the western society's stereotypical view of what Kazakhstan is like, and turned it into a character; in other words, it's not so much he wants to reinforce the stereotype, as he wants to show the ignorance of those who buy the stereotype as a real person. I think you're exactly right.
chris40 ◊ 2007-08-31 18:07	I think so too. It's possibly worth remembering that Sasha Baron Cohen is Jewish, and the Jews have been stereotyped more than most. -- Last edit: 2007-08-31 18:07:41
Ingo ◊ 2008-01-05 21:08	A pic, I've found in a VW-forum: http://www.audiclub.co.il/forum/index.php?showtopic=925 By the way: if I would live just one village north of my home, I would have the chance to get a BOR-AT on the license-plate of my car. But I have no closer relations to that movie (and I don't live one village north).
G-MANN ◊ 2008-01-13 15:08	chris40 a écrit It's possibly worth remembering that Sasha Baron Cohen is Jewish, and the Jews have been stereotyped more than most. But that scene where he (as Borat) goes to the house of that very nice old Jewish couple and starts acting scared that they are going to kill him, and they show cockroaches on the floor, I don't know how Cohen didn't feel guilty doing that.
holden nut ◊ 2008-07-18 10:19	stupid movie Borat was!
vilero ◊ 2009-05-27 12:54	Added 5 cars from deleted scenes and 2 from DVD extra contents courtesy of 'bh'. Btw, have a look to the (initially identified) as Renault 16 Custom Stretched Limousine. Feel free to say what you think about that thing.

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