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2009 Volkswagen Routan [RT] 
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◊ 2012-10-28 13:44 |
US origin!!, 2009+ |
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◊ 2012-10-28 15:28 |
Full: Origin: USA, Built in: Canada |
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◊ 2012-10-28 20:50 |
A Routan, spotted Monday last week:![[Image: img23961z.th.jpg]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/img23961z.jpg/ "http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1245/img23961z.th.jpg") ...on the parking at Kumgang-San, North Korea. -- Last edit: 2012-10-28 20:50:59 |
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◊ 2012-10-29 12:59 |
Of all the cars I thought would be in North Korea...a Routan never crossed my mind. How did it get in the country if Volkswagen doesn't sell it in China/Japan/South Korea? |
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◊ 2012-10-29 13:20 |
Grey import from the US to China or Russia perhaps? @ingo: I dare you say you'd remember if it had diplomatic (blue) or resident foreigner plates. Francoplaque says resident foreigners get orange and foreign companies red: http://plaque.free.fr/as/northkorea/ |
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◊ 2012-10-29 19:45 |
@sandwad2, @Gag: this was a dogdy question -of course I've asked that- on which I didn't got a satisfying answer. You must know, that, when you're travelling in this country, there are some taboos and some questions/issues, which causes reluctance or silence by the guides (you always have two guides with you). The origin of the few US- and US-spec cars, I've spotted there -mainly Vans, some Sedans, but also two US-VW Vento/Jetta and even one Hummer H2- was one of these questions. My first question was, if they came from Okinawa (until ca.4-5 years ago there was a ferry between Yokohama and Wonsan), but this was denied stoutly. The guide said, they were coming from Thailand and were brought into the DPRK via Dalian, the Chinese port. There are sitting many "contributors", he worded it. But this is not plausible, because Thailand is a RHD-country and I've mentioned precisely US-spec-cars, which didn't appear there either. I haven't asked more about that, because it was very obviously a very awkward query. But I daresay the correct answer: the bad "s"-thing, which usually goes together with the also bad "c"-thing. Something which is (officially) absolutely not existing, which isn't allowed to exist even in traces. Officially.  @Gag: this Routan had a white plate, so regular one of one authority or any other state-owned issue instutution. As you've seen, I've placed smone pics in the Forum: http://forum.imcdb.org/index.ks?page=forum_topic&id=7135&index=0 , more will come later. My travelling-companion made also a lot of car- and plate-pics, but before showing it in the Forum, I have to resize them somehow, because with 6 to 8MB each, they are too big for uploading. It was said, that any DPRK-citizen is allowed to buy and own a car as a private person, he only must have the money for that. And he must buy always DPRK-made tires, no import-goods. But: we couldn't spot any single DPRK-made car with a private plate (orange/yellow)  Except one not really old Lexus-SUV (I've a pic of it), we spotted with private plates some older -late 80ies- JDM-cars (the import of used Japanese cars is not allowed any more since over 10 years any more), some 90ies US-cars and ... five (!) black Tatra 613  |
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◊ 2012-10-31 13:53 |
Your guide sounds very well-informed. You mentioned he was from the foreign ministry, so perhaps he has contacts in foreign trade operations (official or otherwise) and knows more than he's letting on. -- Last edit: 2012-10-31 13:53:57 |
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◊ 2012-11-01 11:04 |
@Gag: of course they -especially he- are very well informed. He was a student in the DDR until End of November 1989 and since then he's working in the German department of the ministery of foreign affairs, except 4 years work for a German NGO. The younger female guide works also in the ministery, as her husband and other family-members, too. So for us this situation was much better and the talks much more informative, than having youngs guys, who just have finished the university. |
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◊ 2019-08-16 12:52 |
SEL by the wheels |
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