International Harvester M5 A2 Halftrack as T19 105mm HMC

International Harvester M5 A2 Halftrack in Kelly's Heroes, Movie, 1970 IMDB

Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: US

International Harvester M5 A2 Halftrack as T19 105mm HMC

Pos: 00:49:18 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase 

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sixcyl FR

2006-05-04 07:46

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sixcyl FR

2006-05-04 07:47

White? International?

Junkman UK

2006-05-04 10:57

M3 Half Track, built by the Autocar Company, Diamond T Motor Company, and the White Company. International Harvester produced several thousand of a very similar vehicle, the M5 Half Track for the Lend-Lease program.

Junkman UK

2006-05-04 12:02

International produced the M5. This is a M3 produced by the Autocar Company, Diamond T Motor Company, and the White Company. Since all M3s had the White engine fitted, I'd suggest to list it as a White M3 Half-Track.

antp BE

2006-05-04 12:46

Sorry I've read your comment too fast :D But as you have admin rights, you could have made the change yourself ;)

Alexander DE

2006-05-06 02:23

It actually is the International Harvester M5. The M2 and M3 (plus derivations) had rounded wings. With this gun it tries to impersonate the T48 Gun Motor Carriage, which incidently was never used by the US but the Soviet army.

2491tj EN

2006-05-16 00:01

wrong..the us army employed them early in the desert campaign,although they were obsolete by then and phased out by the stuart light tank.Its actual designation is Carriage,Motor,75mm Howitzer,T30..only 500 were built,only on the White chassis..this film one is a mock up.

antp BE

2006-05-16 00:04

So we list it as "White T30"? or something else?

2491tj EN

2006-06-13 02:30

yep..White T30 will do.

Alexander DE

2006-06-13 09:58

Not a White. The wings show that it was made by International Harvester.
Therefore it is not an original Howitzer Motor Carriage, as all these (T19, T30, T38) used an M3 vehicle.

PeteP UK

2008-10-07 16:05

It is deffinatley an International M5 and not a White M3. The easiest ways to tell are the mudguards which (although very bent here) are very basic bent bits of metal on the M5, where as on the M3 they were very well formed. Also the rear corners are curved on an International, rather than the White's which are completley square, you can't see it in these pics but it is clearer in the film.

The Gun conversion is likley to be a local (Yugoslav) modification, as most of the armour in the film was leased in from the Yugoslav Army.

mike962 DE

2016-06-25 00:34

petep wrote It is deffinatley an International M5 and not a White M3. The easiest ways to tell are the mudguards which (although very bent here) are very basic bent bits of metal on the M5, where as on the M3 they were very well formed. Also the rear corners are curved on an International, rather than the White's which are completley square, you can't see it in these pics but it is clearer in the film.

The Gun conversion is likley to be a local (Yugoslav) modification, as most of the armour in the film was leased in from the Yugoslav Army.

rear is also curbed corners instead of straight like on the M2/M3
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-- Last edit: 2016-06-25 00:34:17

Daryl M US

2018-01-04 08:08

As the Hydraulic Recoil Shock is mounted above the barrel, it cannot be the M1A1 howitzer mounted in the T30 nor the M3 howitzer in the T38, and the barrel isn't tapered so it can't be the M1 mounted in the T48 which means the gun is an M2A1 105 Howitzer, making this an IH M5 either mocked up to resemble the T19 Gun Motor Carriage or a Yugoslavian Army modification to make a GMC.

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