Comments about this vehicle

Author	Message
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-26 20:16	Do we have to list Range Rovers as "Land Rover Range Rover"?
DIEHARD ◊ 2007-11-26 20:37	yes, as it is technically a Land Rover.. -- Last edit: 2007-11-26 20:37:47
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-26 22:58	Technically, a Mercury is a Ford. Range Rover is a separate make, just like a Daimler is not a "Jaguar Daimler".
Ray B. ◊ 2007-11-26 23:02	Bravada wrote Technically, a Mercury is a Ford. Range Rover is a separate make, just like a Daimler is not a "Jaguar Daimler". Sorry, this is bullshit. Just like saying that a Cadillac is a Chevrolet.
antp ◊ 2007-11-26 23:05	It was always made and sold by Land Rover, maybe they were just calling it "Range Rover", but that's probably because they used "Land Rover" for the other one which had no name (except Series + a chassis lenght) I think that it is better to list them under Land Rover make. -- Last edit: 2007-11-26 23:06:12
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-26 23:17	I still can't see how. If we list Daimlers as Daimlers and not Jaguars, we should list Range Rovers as Range Rovers. Besides, this make now has two separate models. I really don't see how it is better to make them harder to find (I would have never looked for Range Rovers the required way).
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-26 23:18	Ray B. wrote Sorry, this is bullshit. Just like saying that a Cadillac is a Chevrolet. Go see the Mariner, see the Escape, and tell me how they are not the same.
antp ◊ 2007-11-26 23:27	Bravada wrote If we list Daimlers as Daimlers and not Jaguars, we should list Range Rovers as Range Rovers. I do not see why you compare Daimler/Jaguar to Land-Rover/Range-Rover. First one is a set of two brands (makes), second one is a make and a common model name which could eventually be considered as a make. Bravada wrote I really don't see how it is better to make them harder to find (I would have never looked for Range Rovers the required way). Current ones are Land Rover Range Rover... And it is not because you would not have searched for Range Rover in Land Rover, that it proves anything -- Last edit: 2007-11-26 23:27:53
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-26 23:31	The Range Rover was intended to be a separate make from day one. The fact that it was a one-model make for many years doesn't change that. It's a Range Rover, not a Land Rover Range Rover. Same with Daimler - it is merely a nicety trim level on Jaguars now effectively, but it is intended a separate make and we list it so, even though there is even less "rationale" for that than in the case of the RRs, which are markedly different from Land Rovers. We are generally going by what the manufacturer says, and the manfuacturer doesn't say "Land Rover Range Rover".
antp ◊ 2007-11-26 23:34	Range Rover is listed exactly like other models on Land Rover site. Range Rover has a Land Rover logo/badged on its grille (not only current models, also some older ones: Link to "picasaweb.google.com")
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-26 23:46	Show me one instance where British Leyland or JLR refers to Range Rover as "Land Rover Range Rover". Daimler isn't even listed as a separate model, it is listed as a trim level of the XJ! http://www.jaguar.co.uk/uk/en/xj/models_pricing/models.htm
antp ◊ 2007-11-26 23:57	"Daimler is a division of Jaguar Cars." as they say on their site. There is no Jaguar badge on the Daimlers, as far as I know. If you just want a place where they write the complete name "Land Rover Range Rover", maybe there isn't one, but it is the same for many other cars. For example, Alfa-Romeo: they do not write the full make name when they name their cars, they just say Alfa + name. -- Last edit: 2007-11-26 23:58:49
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-27 00:02	There was a Pentastar on Imperials for some time of its existence as a separate make. Again, does JLR call it "Land Rover Range Rover" anywhere?
antp ◊ 2007-11-27 00:02	They say "the flagship of the Land Rover range" in the "The Range Rover quick facts" Link to "www.landrover.co.uk"
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-27 00:03	Flagship it is, "Land Rover Range Rover" it isn't.
antp ◊ 2007-11-27 00:06	If Range Rover is the flagship of the Land Rover range, I understand that as a model of the Land Rover range... but if you really want a place on their site where they write the full name... http://www.usedvehicles.landrover.co.uk/Used_Land_Rover_Range_Rover_3.htm
antp ◊ 2007-11-27 00:07	And if used Land Rover are not ok, here is another page: Link to "www.landrover.co.uk"
antp ◊ 2007-11-27 00:09	And on their US site: Link to "www.landroverusa.com"
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-27 00:10	You win and I am disgusted. Definitely wasn't that way in good old BL days when the RR was conceived (and Land Rover referred to a vehicle, not a make - at best it would be a Rover model, just like the Range).
antp ◊ 2007-11-27 00:27	sorry but that Range Rover and Land Rover stuff is complicated. That's what I wanted to mean when I said "maybe they were just calling it "Range Rover", but that's probably because they used "Land Rover" for the other one which had no name. They probably made the two as separate ones, but already originally it was not really clear about makes/models, so rather than having two makes they finally just kept Range Rover linked to Land Rover, not having interest to sell it separately (both are well known for the same qualities). And about the link with Rover, indeed, in my vehicles pictures all are in a Rover folder, as when I started to sort my pictures I found these names complicated. -- Last edit: 2007-11-27 00:29:25
Bravada ◊ 2007-11-27 00:33	What I meant is that they were clearly marketed as separate marques until recently. There was no talk of a "Land Rover Range Rover". The Range Rover was intended to be what Daimler is to Jaguar, even if the history of the two pairs is different. OK, what I mean is that the link is obvious and the Land Rover badges were seen on Range Rovers for a long time now, but there was no intention until recently, as it seems, to make Range Rover "a model of Land Rover".
ath20wj ◊ 2008-01-19 18:45	Bravada wrote What I meant is that they were clearly marketed as separate marques until recently. There was no talk of a "Land Rover Range Rover". The Range Rover was intended to be what Daimler is to Jaguar, even if the history of the two pairs is different. OK, what I mean is that the link is obvious and the Land Rover badges were seen on Range Rovers for a long time now, but there was no intention until recently, as it seems, to make Range Rover "a model of Land Rover". OK, im going to try to clear this up. The Range Rover is like what the S600 is to Mercedes If you will notice, on the Grill of the Rnage Rover there is a Land Rover emblem because it is made by Land Rover in the same way the Discovery(LR3) and Freelander(LR2) are. No, the Diamler is not called a Jaguar Diamler, because... actually, I'm not sure, I never have understood what purpose the Diamler has. Let me try this, The Lexus ES and Toyota are the same car, just with a different name, and features. They do not call the Lexus the Lexus Camery nor the Toyota Lexus, because toyota wants to be able to sale, the Lexus as a luxury car without people knowing about it really being a Toyota. Range Rover is not its own brand, meaning I cant go to a Range Rover dealer and buy a car, I have to buy Range Rovers from a Land R... ok, im not sure how to explain this it is insanely confusing, so lets try it like this, what is it that you dont get and I'll try to explain it :), also i am NOT trying to make fun of you or anything, it is confusing, i just want to help.
marklandynut ◊ 2010-07-02 23:43	Here are the facts behind the names. In 1948 the Rover company introduced a new model called the Land-Rover. In 1967 Rover (and its parent company Leyland who had bought Rover only a couple of years earlier) was sucked into the BMC empire to create BLMC or British Leyland. From that point techncially the Land Rover became the British Leyland Land rover. This continued as the only 4x4 until 1970 when a new model was launched called the Range Rover. The earliest models included a badge on the rear 'By Land-Rover'. There were some very small BL badges there too. In 1978 a reshuffle inside British Leyland saw the creation of a new company, Land Rover Ltd, who were allowed more independence from the main BL group so they could have more control over their future. This new company made two models, the Land Rover Series 3 and the Range Rover. At no time was Range Rover ever a brand/maker, it was always a model name. So, to be absolutley correct when naming Range Rovers prior to 1978 they should be called British Leyland Range Rover, then from 1978 Land Rover Range Rover. This would of course be very confusing, so its best to stick to Land Rover Range Rover. This is not the only example within the BL empire. In 1959 BMC launched a new car called the Austin Seven or Morris Mini-Minor depending on which badge was fitted. When the Mark 2 was launched in 1967 apart from a couple of tiny BL badges it was just badged Mini as if it had no maker. the Jaguar/Daimler situation is slightly different. Jaguar and Daimler were independent manufacturers until they merged. So, they have always been different brands. After the separate Dailmer models ceased and became badge engineered Jaguars the two were aimed at slightly different customers. Jaguar was the sportier executive motor whilst Daimler was very much the luxury version and was the brand used for factory built limousines and cars for VIPs.
jettalover ◊ 2010-07-03 04:05	Is that a "Country" decal to the right of the license plate?
Sandie ◊ 2012-02-25 16:38	1993 or 1994 County (chrome rear bumpers, old steering wheel).
rtsbusman1997 ◊ 2022-06-17 05:02	Made for USA

Advertising

Last completed movie pages

1993 Land-Rover Range Rover County Series I

1993 Land-Rover Range Rover Series I in Desperate Housewives, TV Series, 2004-2012 Ep. 4.07

Comments about this vehicle

Add a comment

Advertising

Watch or buy this title - Powered by JustWatch

Advertising