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1967 Hillman Minx [Arrow]

1967 Hillman Minx [Arrow] in Yardie, Movie, 2018 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK — Built in: JM — Made for: JA

1967 Hillman Minx [Arrow]

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s13a RU

2019-12-28 14:12

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Or the MG on the left. Whichever is more interesting.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-28 15:23

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Both as boring as the Guardian on the day after a Labour Party collapse.

dsl SX

2019-12-28 17:41

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Better that than the gloating triumphalism of the Daily Prejudice rags. And there's still the crosswords and football reports for some excitement.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-28 18:06

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Crosswords with misprints are a bit of a non sequitur, and football? Good grief!

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johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-28 18:21

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The Saturday before the election, some of the candidates had stands in the town centre. Having read all four manifesti, I went to three stands (no Green Party), and asked two questions, using the same words.

What are you doing to combat global warming caused by excess population?
What are you going to do to my taxes?

The canvasser on the Labour Party stand said, and I quote: “You have a closed mind, I have nothing to say to you.” She then turned her back on me.

No way to beat the Tories, is it?

dsl SX

2019-12-28 19:19

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What answer did the others give to your first question? What sort of answer were you looking for?

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-28 19:36

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Nobody answered it at all.

The Tory canvasser asked me to send an e-mail asking my question which she would pass to her environmental colleague on the County Council, no response yet.

I was looking for some acknowledgement that it was a valid problem, with comments that it would be a very difficult subject for many reasons, possibly religious as top difficulty, plus some expertise in population management (not control), since it seems that there are statistical reasons why numbers cannot reduce either simply or quickly enough. No manifesto of any of the four competing parties had even mentioned global population as a problem, let alone offered any answers, which struck me as almost as appalling as the entire gamut of idiots on offer in the vote scrabble.

Perhaps I should add that the Tory was our local county councillor, but she didn’t know me from Adam anyway.

To be as even handed as possible, a bloke on the Labour stand engaged me in conversation, no doubt having seen the look on my face, but he had nothing to offer except to say that he was sure Johnson would sell the NHS. I still can’t accept that as a genuine proposition, I think it would cause national unrest.

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chicomarx BE

2019-12-28 20:10

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Europe would normally be in decline from an ageing population, situation Japan is in now. The growth is purely driven by migration.
In the UK Tories want the migrants for the economy and Labour for the votes.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-28 20:21

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PS. I had, very very seriously, considered spoiling my paper as a sort of protest against the state of the state, but memory of my Dad, and others who had fought in various conflicts to protect my ability to vote stopped me.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-28 20:25

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chicomarx, your comment is correct, but there are now 7 billion of us, and you can’t emigrate from, or immigrate to, the Earth.

chicomarx BE

2019-12-29 01:38

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Right, but you were asking your local politician to tackle a global problem, when they're probably just proposing a new bicycle lane. Short of handing out contraception in third world countries I don't see what they can do. On a UK level they can put a cap on the number of new arrivals, but both parties have their reasons not to do so.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 08:27

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chicomarx wrote Right, but you were asking your local politician to tackle a global problem, when they're probably just proposing a new bicycle lane. Short of handing out contraception in third world countries I don't see what they can do. On a UK level they can put a cap on the number of new arrivals, but both parties have their reasons not to do so.


No, the politician was representing her party in a national election and was there to be a conduit for questions of any sort. They were there to talk about government policy in order to capture votes in a national election and it was a perfectly valid question. They are quick enough to open global subjects if they think they can raise tax revenue from them. Also, County Councillors in England do more than just talk about cycle lanes, the annual budget of Staffs C.C. was £508 million last year, looked after by 62 councillors, and they are the people who negotiate with the national government on behalf of their areas. I still have not found out what this government intends to do to promote thought, at, say, the UN, about this subject, which was all I wanted to know.

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Reg1992 US

2019-12-29 10:41

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johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 11:06

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What is the relevance of this, and who is it?

Reg1992 US

2019-12-29 11:29

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Just enjoying watching the conversation taking place. And it's Michael Jackson eating popcorn in the Thriller music video (long version).

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 11:50

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No, completely beneath my radar! I’m pleased that you do find the conversation of interest, but expect it to be relegated to elsewhere in short order.

We all have our particular interests, and modern popular culture isn’t one of mine. I wonder how many would recognise a picture of (say) the English cricket captain, or of W.O. Bentley?

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Baube QC

2019-12-29 12:22

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Mr Bentley : maybe, if he poses with one of his cars
cricket captain : not a chance

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 12:27

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Joe Root

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Root

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 12:30

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Walter Owen Bentley

https://mobile.twitter.com/w_o_bentley?lang=ta

Ingo DE

2019-12-29 12:36

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johnfromstaffs wrote The Saturday before the election, some of the candidates had stands in the town centre. Having read all four manifesti, I went to three stands (no Green Party), and asked two questions, using the same words.
What are you doing to combat global warming caused by excess population?
What are you going to do to my taxes?
The canvasser on the Labour Party stand said, and I quote: “You have a closed mind, I have nothing to say to you.” She then turned her back on me.
No way to beat the Tories, is it?

Well, you had the chance to ask the Labour people - before the Europe election I couldn't ask the SPD (socialdemocrats, the German equivalent of Labour) guys - because they, six old white men, stood with the back to the public and were busy with theirselves.
Sure, I wanted to troll them, as I'm a representative of their rivals, but even that wasn't possible.

Labour and SPD are still exercising the all-time most popular socialist's sports = riding dead horses.

Ingo DE

2019-12-29 12:45

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johnfromstaffs wrote ...
We all have our particular interests, and modern popular culture isn’t one of mine. I wonder how many would recognise a picture of (say) the English cricket captain, or of W.O. Bentley?

Well, positively said, this comment is pure Britishness - negatively said, it's Britain-egocentrism à la Brexiteer.

W.O.Bentley may be known by the -not too large amount- classic car enthusiast scene - but anything about cricket is outside Britain and the Commonwealth absolutely unknown.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 12:50

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O.K. I have been ENGLISH not British, for 71 years, and intend to stay that way, and extremely proud so to be, as long as I can. Enough?

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 12:51

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How about a picture of Henry Leland?

Ingo DE

2019-12-29 12:53

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chicomarx wrote Right, but you were asking your local politician to tackle a global problem, when they're probably just proposing a new bicycle lane. Short of handing out contraception in third world countries I don't see what they can do. On a UK level they can put a cap on the number of new arrivals, but both parties have their reasons not to do so.

Fully agreed - as a voter and of course as a politician you should be that intelligent, to divide between the types of elections and the different parliament.
The bicycle lane in town is a topic for the communal elections, and migration and global warming for national or international (the only one is for the European Council) elections - when you mix that up, it became ridiculous.

Ingo DE

2019-12-29 13:01

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johnfromstaffs wrote O.K. I have been ENGLISH not British, for 71 years, and intend to stay that way, and extremely proud so to be, as long as I can. Enough?

Mmhh, tricky topic - can't you be proud only for something, you have been made by yourself?
Belonging to a nation or ethnic group or having a specific citizenship, is nothing, you are responsible by yourself.

We Germans are very careful with this topic, because all, who say, they are proud to be a German, are seen as Nazis - and they are some.
I'm not proud to be a German - but I'm glad, happy and satisfied to be a German.

Ingo DE

2019-12-29 13:08

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johnfromstaffs wrote O.K. I have been ENGLISH not British, for 71 years, and intend to stay that way, and extremely proud so to be, as long as I can. Enough?

:think: Ah, we can tell now which way the wind is blowing - how many of the Brexiteers have said, the would't care to alienate and finally lose Scotland and Northern Ireland, for having the Brexit? 60%? 65%?

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 13:11

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Don’t know, don’t care.

Pride in personal achievement? We English don’t do that, or if we do, we choose not to talk about it.

There is only one thing I shall say, this year, rfs and I have been married for 45 years. If there is anything else to engender pride, it must be that.

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Ingo DE

2019-12-29 13:18

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johnfromstaffs wrote What is the relevance of this, and who is it?

Any time, popcorn
https://youtu.be/NjxNnqTcHhg
https://youtu.be/B7UmUX68KtE
is mentioned in an internet discussion, it's a hint/running gag, that either a dispute or some bizarre comments is up to be enjoyed.

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Reg1992 US

2019-12-29 13:22

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Ingo wrote
Mmhh, tricky topic - can't you be proud only for something, you have been made by yourself?
Belonging to a nation or ethnic group or having a specific citizenship, is nothing, you are responsible by yourself.

We Germans are very careful with this topic, because all, who say, they are proud to be a German, are seen as Nazis - and they are some.
I'm not proud to be a German - but I'm glad, happy and satisfied to be a German.

If I may offer my two cents - or someone else's - the late comedian George Carlin famously spoke of this topic, ethnic/national pride, during one of his HBO specials only about 15 years ago before he passed away. See the clip here.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 13:32

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6nRT2EWXkk More style, better jokes and no rude words. Sorry Reg!

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johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 14:33

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I note that no-one has yet claimed knowledge of Henry Leland, and this a motor car site, with American respondents. Dear me!

Gamer DE

2019-12-29 14:33

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Me sir! I have!

But why did you leave out his last name?

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johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 14:37

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Do you refer to Martyn?

Where did you make response?

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Gamer DE

2019-12-29 14:38

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No, Cadillac.

Never mind, it appears I got something mixed up.

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johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 14:40

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Gamer wrote No, Cadillac.


Henry Martyn Leland, founder of Cadillac, and, apparently Lincoln.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_M._Leland

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AnimatronixX DE

2019-12-29 16:37

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Interesting reading due to a wide range of origins, age groups and levels of education. But I'm only getting involved to the following, car-related extent: I worked at a Cadillac dealership, specialized in the pre-1980 models (I may have mentioned that on occasion...) and placed a portrait of said Mr. Leland on the wall, right above my desk. ONE of my workmates had an idea who that was, everyone else thought it was my granddad or somebody else. Yes, that was rather disappointing - but I wouldn't expect this to be common knowledge on a website dedicated all sorts and variations of not railbound motorized vehicles.

Baube QC

2019-12-29 16:51

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Ingo wrote but anything about cricket is outside Britain and the Commonwealth absolutely unknown.


Canada is supposed to be in the Commonwealth but i don't know cricket at all.. ;)

dsl SX

2019-12-29 16:57

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_national_cricket_team - "With the United States, Canada was one of the two participants in the first ever international cricket match, played in New York City in 1844."

Reg1992 US

2019-12-29 17:00

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johnfromstaffs and Ingo could host a podcast about this topic, and I would honestly listen to it. :lol:

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 17:16

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Animatronixx - pity he wasn't your granddad, might have been worth a few euros!

Reg - thanks, but I wonder whether you'd understand my accent, Birmingham overlaid with Staffs is a bit impenetrable.

A sample, but I hasten to add it's not exactly me, I only weigh in at 180.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b85be7cD6xY

Baube QC

2019-12-29 17:22

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dsl wrote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_national_cricket_team - "With the United States, Canada was one of the two participants in the first ever international cricket match, played in New York City in 1844."


i was -133 years old, i'm afraid i missed that game...
maybe there is some highlights on Youtube.. :D

never thought the game was that old , here in NA i think ( by memory ) the oldest sport team is the Cincinnati Reds

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chicomarx BE

2019-12-29 18:01

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johnfromstaffs wrote I still have not found out what this government intends to do to promote thought, at, say, the UN, about this subject, which was all I wanted to know.

Now that Brexit is achieved you can handle this subject on a national level. The UN introduces things like the global compact for refugees, which the UK signed by the way but the Belgian government fell over. (and they're still fallen) Only Boris can save you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsqlUNV-z4

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 18:04

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chicomarx wrote
Only Boris can save you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsqlUNV-z4


I won't hold my breath.

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 18:19

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Baube wrote

never thought the game was that old


https://www.lords.org/lords/our-history/timeline

Ingo DE

2019-12-29 21:22

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chicomarx wrote ...
Only Boris can save you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsqlUNV-z4

johnfromstaffs wrote
I won't hold my breath.

Well, the time is over, your breath may could have played a role - now you have deal with it, whatever happens.

Ingo DE

2019-12-29 21:38

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johnfromstaffs wrote ...
Reg - thanks, but I wonder whether you'd understand my accent, Birmingham overlaid with Staffs is a bit impenetrable.
...

My German is clear, as I was socialized in the area, where the clearest German is spoken.
My English is afflicted whith an accent, according my wife as strong as
https://youtu.be/14rNqhuVj5A

btw.: for my ears the Yorkshire-dialect is much harder to understand - and Scottish English much better (and nicer to hear).

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johnfromstaffs EN

2019-12-29 21:39

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However it may be spoken, in whatever accent, is not as important as the fact that your English, my friend, is about ten million times better than my German.


I think we have bored others for long enough, so I shall say, once again, “Ave, atque, vale!” but adding by way of reassurance “Resurgam.”

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