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unknown in Monte Carlo or Bust!, Movie, 1969
Class: Cars, Sedan
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Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase
Comments about this vehicle
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◊ 2010-11-02 11:32 |
![[Image: vlcsnap2010102918h27m47.8215.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is261/vlcsnap2010102918h27m47.8215.jpg) |
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◊ 2010-11-02 16:19 |
 The shape of the radiator and the emblem on top of it remind me of Morris, but the rest of the car doesn't fit at all... |
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◊ 2010-11-03 13:12 |
Hi, This is a mid 1930s Ware Armitage 'Nifty Nine'. Regards Vintman. |
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◊ 2010-11-03 13:23 |
: /vehicle.php?id=346494 The colour scheme looks like that of Italian taxis... Could it be some old Fiat in disguise ? |
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◊ 2010-11-03 17:16 |
"This is a mid 1930s Ware Armitage 'Nifty Nine'." Absolutely correct, but Sir Cuthbert was a crafty old fox who never used new tooling if he could buy second-hand, and I suspect that Morris were trying out the set of contractual conditions used later when they sold off the tooling for various thirties, forties and fifties models to the Hindustan Company. Never draft new conditions if you can plagiarize old ones, never make new tools if the old set still work. Possible source of the "Nifty Nine" - Link to "www.google.co.uk" 1928 Flat Nose Oxford saloon. |
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◊ 2010-11-03 19:21 |
Hmmm…... Not so sure John. Looking at the Ware Armitage works, I think Sir Cuthbert had only an assembly operation. I think he bought in complete cars in boxed form from Datsun in Japan and put them together. Didn't Datsun have a tie in with Sir Herbert in 1926 and made the Windsor under licence as スピーディー 九. Regards Vintman |
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◊ 2010-11-03 19:52 |
The DAT, after the initials of its 3 backers, K. Den; R. Aoyama and A Takeuchi, ceased production in 1926 in favour of trucks. DAT was acquired in 1931 by Tobata Imono, whose president, Yoshisuke Ayukawa, was keen to introduce a mass produced Japanese car which could compete with American products. Unfortunately the first Datson (Son of Dat) prototype did not appear until 1931, but did have a superficial resemblance to an Austin 7. The name had been quickly changed to Datsun, as the ending "son" means "loss" in Japanese, and the production car, a 495cc four cylinder of 10bhp with a top speed of 35mph appeared in 1932. The Staffordshire ceramic sanitary equipment manufacturer, Edward Johns and Co. who sold their products under the name "Armitage Ware" say there is no connection between themselves and Sir Cuthbert. https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Edward_Johns_and_Co I still think it could be a Morris. -- Last edit: 2020-03-10 18:05:52 |
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◊ 2010-11-03 20:49 |
I was going to question the subject of Ware Armitage being the fastest urinal in the world, but you saved me the time. I still think it could be one of Herbet's babies. [URL=http://img716.imageshack.us assuming saving of the photo works. Not done it before and following DynaMike instructions. Regards Vintman |
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◊ 2010-11-03 21:01 |
Didnt. Try http://www.svvs.org/Ware'Armitage.jpg Vintman |
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◊ 2010-11-03 21:12 |
Looking at the recognition points joined by the red lines, it certainly looks more Longbridge than Cowley. I would guess at a 12. One of the difficulties with this film is that most of the cars have been altered in some way, for what reason who knows? |
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◊ 2023-10-07 14:32 |
@jfs: The cover of the Japanese movie novel appears to show a still from the set in nice big and clear quality .gif ":)") Link to "anamon-book.tumblr.com" |
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◊ 2025-08-19 19:56 |
I think the Ware-Armitages are made for movie cars based on Fiat 509s. If you look at the bonnet line and the louvres on the bonnet sides they look like a good match. The radiator is meant to look Morris. I think the bodies from the scuttle back are new for the film - if you look at the car that gets burnt at the filling station it looks like there's a hefty rollover hoop between the front and rear seats. I'm watching it on a small screen so have a look yourselves. |
