1961 Thornycroft Mighty Antar C6T

1961 Thornycroft Mighty Antar in The World of Heavy Haulage, Documentary, 2004

Class: Trucks, Trailer truck (tractor) — Model origin: UK

1961 Thornycroft Mighty Antar C6T

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene 

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stronghold EN

2008-01-29 04:12

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nzcarnerd NZ

2008-01-29 09:15

The make is Thornycroft - hence the T. Antar is the model.

Alexander DE

2008-01-29 12:36

This is the Thornycroft Antar Mk.3A, Reg.-No. [983 FUL] first registered in 1963 according to DVLA. The new body and cab shows the difference to earlier versions.

antarmike EN

2009-12-30 17:51

This is not a Mk3A Antar. The Mk3A had an straight 8 cylinder supercharged Rolls Royce, a six speed transmission, and a removable ballast body over a fixed fifth wheel. It could tow either a full trailer or a semi trailer. The 3A antar had a Turner winch. The 3/3A was a model for the British Army, and they had 210 of the mark 3/ mark 3A. The Army had earlier taken delivery of 368 Mk1 and Mk2 Antars with petrol engines. The RAF was a far smaller user of the type, having had just 9 Mighty Antars of which 8 were Mk1 Petrol Mighty Antars and 1 was a Diesel Model C6T.

This is the Ex RAF Mighty Antar model C6T. Basically an export model for the civilian market, only one was sold in Great Britain, and that is this one all others were exported. 21 were also supplied to the Pakistan Army. Six went to Argentina on an AEA contract. The engine is a Turbo charged straight 6 Rolls Royce, it has a fixed ballast body, no fifth wheel, Darlington Winch and retains the 4x3 12 speed transmission of the Mk1and Mk2 models. Incidentally I own it so I should know. It was ordered in 1960, and it was delivered to the RAF Airfield Construction Branch in 1961. It service number with the RAF was 40 AT 81. date of registration Alexander quotes is correct, but year of vehicle is 1961, because it spent time with the RAF and was not civilian registered until ownership passed to Ministry of Public Building and works.
Model Mighty Antar C6T also known as Mighty Antar R6.
http://www.hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=7085&page=36
With only one of this model sold in this country it is hardly surprising people have difficulty in identifying it.

Incidentally the Mark 3A was called a Thornycroft Antar but The model C6T was called a Thornycroft Mighty Antar.

-- Last edit: 2009-12-31 17:06:10

antarmike EN

2009-12-31 15:43

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Ministry plate inside cab showing model as Mighty Antar C6T, and year as 1961

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antarmike EN

2009-12-31 15:58

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And details from the user handbook for this Mighty Antar. Note Chassis number and Contract number are the same ones on the Ministry plate and the Model is shown as Mighty Antar/C6T

-- Last edit: 2009-12-31 17:53:14

antarmike EN

2010-01-01 12:01

I notice that the model still shows incorrectly as Antar Mk3A, and year as 1963, can I provide further information to help identification. I have only listed the main differences between the C6T model and the Mk3A.
There are many identification features I have not listed. If there is a problem with identification I am more than happy to go through the whole list as to tell the two types apart.

On the C6T model Batteries live under passenger seat, (not visible) , Paper Air filters in cannisters on wing, Exhaust rise vertically,Exhausts bolt to front face of ballast box, ballast body longer, rear mudguards from flat sheet steel and attached to front and rear of ballast box. Ballast box has more attachment points, no fifth wheel fitted, there additional winch rope guide rollers on the C6T where the 3A has the fifth wheel. six cyilnder engine leaves more cab floor visible, battery isolator in cab. Windscreens 1 piece. Whole windscreen opens (top hinged) for ventilation. Darlington type 70 winch fitted. Fuel tanks unprotected and fully visible. Tear lights fitted to wings. Rear towing jaw and pin. Does not have grab handle above door, and fitted to roof, Only one grab handle fitted behind door. Round section mirror mounts. Civilian style indicators, fully exposed. Does not carry fire extinguishers. Bonnet catches turnable handles. Steps to access ballast body affix to back of box and rear mudguards. Spare tyre recessed into rear face of ballast box. No Bivuac/ Tilt supplied. Radiator blind when used two canvas screens held in place with springs. Fog lights fitted under front bumper, facing ahead. Rear winch rollers lie vertically above each other. Walkway height over fuel tank carries on from front wing, ie no step up to walkway. Walkway bolts to top of fuel tank mount with no seperate bracket. Tyre inflator and guage fitted into step arrangement/ front wing, nearside of vehicle. C6T does not have coupola/ Anti Aircraft gunners position cut into cab roof.

3A Batteries sit in boxes in the walkways, above the fuel tanks, boxes clearly visible. Oil filled air filters inside wings, accessed from panel in top of wing. , free standing exhausts splayed outwards, and fitted with heat shields, Shorter ballast body is removable. There are curved wings over the rear wheels that remain when ballast body is taken off. Fifth wheel always fitted to vehicle and visible even when ballast box sits over it. Battery isolator on cab side below passenger door. 8 cylinder engine protrudes further into cab. Windscreens have opening vent lower section (top two thirds of windscreen fixed in position). Turner winch fitted. Small capstan winch visible on offside of main winch.( and storage drum for Capstan winch wire rope. Fuel tanks protected by ribbed panels fitted outside the tank mounting angle iron. rear lights fitted to bracket extending out from Chassis., not onto mudguards. Rear towing hook. Grab rail runs above cab door, affixed to roof. Two grab handles behind door, one above the other. Square section mirror mounts. Military indicators protected within guards. Mounting for Fire extinguishers on front bumper beside radiator. Bonnet catches springs pulled into place by hand. Ladder to access ballast box attach solely to box. Spare tyre sits on flat face, back of box. 3a Carries a canvas bivuoac/ tilt on tubular steel frame, above winch housing. Radiator blind, Louvre fitted into radiator grill and operated from cab by bowden cable. Turn lights fitted under front bumber in place of foglamps, these are angled outwards to enable the driver to better see round corners, Can be swithced on independantly. Rear winch rollers fitted to fifth wheel skid, and top roller lies ahead of lower roller. Walkway over fuel tank about nine inches approx, above height of front wings, ie big step up onto walkway, walkway support bracket seperate feature above fuel tank, mounting back to chassis. Tyre inflator and guage fitted to chassis nearside just ahead of rear bogey. Coupola/ Anti aircraft gunners position in cab roof above passenger seat.

Is this enough to aid recognition or do you need the full list of the differences between these models, I am willing to help, to ensure correct identification.

Identification of this model as Thornycroft Mighty Antar/C6T year 1961 100% positive, not the slightest doubt about it.

Certainty that this is NOT a 1963 Mark3A 100% , not the slightest doubt that this identification is in error.

-- Last edit: 2010-01-01 15:10:16

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