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Scores To Settle, Movie, 1998 IMDB

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Carmaker1 EN

2018-07-09 22:41

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It is very clear that legible enough examples of certain vehicles were deliberately removed for mysterious reasons. 2-3 Honda Accords of 3 differing generations were added, a 1991 Acura Legend in perfectly clear picture quality, a Volvo sedan, and etc. Yet I don't see them here. Considering that barely accurate anime/animated cars are even allowed to make the cut in this database, I cannot understand why shots like these magically disappear.
(Edit: I see, you cars seen through another car aren't allowed)

1988-89 Honda Accord (CA) Example #1

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1991-92 Acura Legend Sedan (KA7) Base/L
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1996 Honda Accord Sedan (CD)

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Volvo 240 or similar model

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Mercedes-Benz W124

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VW Beetle

The shape is obvious enough

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It is somewhat puzzling, when anyone with eyes can identify most of these vehicles, but they are being removed for "questionable" reasons. I chose to invest in the SSA "Africa" side of things, since no one else has cared to do so at the moment. That industry in question (from which this film arose from), alongside others I plan to add here, is the 2nd largest globally, yet for obvious reasons no one has bothered to make any contributions in this area.

I realise mistakes do happen of course with approving submissions and some can indeed be too unreadable, but I know very well most of my submissions should be satisfactory (spent many hours compiling in free time).

I can understand this not being added (or being removed), but this is definitely a 1992-93 Accord (CB) as the reverse lights (being engaged in second still) even highlight that fact from afar (plus brake lights illuminating in first still).

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Edit: Doesn't count.

Mazda 626 (CB)

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ingo DE

2018-07-09 23:08

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@carmaker1: the VW Beetle doesn't fit. It's something locally made, maybe on Brazilian basis, but definitely not a 1302 as on the photo from the VW Museum

Carmaker1 EN

2018-07-10 00:33

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ingo wrote @carmaker1: the VW Beetle doesn't fit. It's something locally made, maybe on Brazilian basis, but definitely not a 1302 as on the photo from the VW Museum


Oh okay, I should've found a more accurate example. Honestly, there a lot of Beetles probably I could use (based on local popularity in 20th Century Nigeria), but organizing "good shots" has been really time-consuming, so maybe next week? Like many of you here (have done for years), I am trying to add more footage of cars in different countries for once and lose my US-centric and EU-centric focus.

I have to be honest, I am making the assumption it was made in this country for its market. Historically, the VW Beetle was once the most popular automobile in this movie's country and like Peugeot, manufactured locally. Today that honour either goes to the Toyota Camry or Corolla, followed by Land Cruiser Prado (J120 or J150), which all 3 are imported. Peugeot 504 and 505, as well as 406 (from late 90s) were extremely popular in Nigeria and locally built by PAN Limited.

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dsl SX

2018-07-10 00:56

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Carmaker1 wrote Like many of you here (have done for years), I am trying to add more footage of cars in different countries for once and lose my US-centric and EU-centric focus.


:king: I'm up for that. Bring on the dancing horses.

tore-40 NO

2018-07-10 09:38

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The comment with the VW Typ 1 picture is long gone by now, also the answer (@Gamer, was it?) is deleted.

The car in question was Brazilian sourced, based on the location, verified by the special vent pattern in the decklid. Probably a 1600, so a late one, at least 1979+ taillights, also seemed to have a bumper mounted rear fog lamp (!) and blacked out rear lights.

Just a few pixels, indeed, but enough to have kept it in the comments?

Carmaker1 EN

2018-07-10 18:21

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tore-40 wrote The comment with the VW Typ 1 picture is long gone by now, also the answer (@Gamer, was it?) is deleted.

The car in question was Brazilian sourced, based on the location, verified by the special vent pattern in the decklid. Probably a 1600, so a late one, at least 1979+ taillights, also seemed to have a bumper mounted rear fog lamp (!) and blacked out rear lights.

Just a few pixels, indeed, but enough to have kept it in the comments?


Brazilian-sourced? Do you mean other VWs? The VW Typ 1 was built in Ojo, Lagos, Nigeria by VON Limited from 1975 to 1992. This film was shot in the latter half of 1997.

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tore-40 NO

2018-07-11 12:05

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Sorry, I may have used the wrong words, but the parts were AFAIK shipped across the Atlantic, to be assembled there, yes. It was not based on German parts, if we can agree on that.

Did you find info online, about Volkswagen of Nigeria? I've tried their site, but no result. I wonder if they also supplied other countries with Beetles back then.

ingo DE

2018-07-11 12:09

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Carmaker1 wrote
Brazilian-sourced? Do you mean other VWs? The VW Typ 1 was built in Ojo, Lagos, Nigeria by VON Limited from 1975 to 1992. This film was shot in the latter half of 1997.

I mean VW Typ1 with Brazil origin. There are some to find in Africa, although there was a local assembling in Nigeria.

Carmaker1 EN

2018-07-12 07:14

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tore-40 wrote Sorry, I may have used the wrong words, but the parts were AFAIK shipped across the Atlantic, to be assembled there, yes. It was not based on German parts, if we can agree on that.

Did you find info online, about Volkswagen of Nigeria? I've tried their site, but no result. I wonder if they also supplied other countries with Beetles back then.


Yes, kind of (finding info). Good guess. This is what I found: https://www.volkswagenag.com/en/group/history/chronicle/1973-1981.html

Carmaker1 EN

2018-07-12 07:16

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Somehow this doesn't appear to be an Lexus LS 400 and keeps being removed. Oh well.

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night cub US

2018-07-12 07:46

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Carmaker1 wrote Somehow this doesn't appear to be an Lexus LS 400 and keeps being removed. Oh well.

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It's too small. A lot of the ones deleted are too small, too blurry or too background, or a combination of all three.

Gag Halfrunt UK

2018-07-12 13:35

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From the Volkswagen website linked aboce:
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Volkswagen of Nigeria Ltd. is founded in Lagos, with the participation of the Nigerian government. Volkswagenwerk AG holds 40 percent of the company’s shares. Setting up production in West Africa increases Volkswagen’s production capacity on the African continent and is aimed at developing an export market for Volkswagen’s subsidiaries in Brazil and Mexico. On March 21, 1975, Volkswagen of Nigeria begins assembling the VW 1300. In 1976 it builds over 16,000 vehicles, including the Passat, the Brasilia and the Audi 100, and increases its share of the passenger car market to 23.5 percent. Its position in the commercial vehicle market stabilises at 16.8 percent. In December 1976, the Nigerian Volkswagen subsidiary takes over imports of commercial vehicles in place of the previous general importer. A currency shortage in 1982 leads to state-imposed import controls, effectively throttling production in industries dependent on imports. Only in 1985, after a bilateral trade agreement between Nigeria and Brazil eases material supplies, is Volkswagen of Nigeria again able to produce continuously. Pursuant to this agreement, Volkswagen do Brasil supplies vehicle parts in exchange for oil shipments from Nigeria to Brazil.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry_in_Nigeria has a little about Volkswagen of Nigeria but not when it closed down.

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