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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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05-08-2004 à 21:59
| « Rolls-Royce Phantom two. 4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg downdraft carburetor, can go from zero to 100 kilometres an hour in 12.5 seconds. And I even like the color. » |
2006-05-25 14:21
| Interestingly, the Phantom II had a 7.7 litre engine and no horsepower rating whatsoever. Rolls Royce merely stated engine performance as being 'sufficient'in those years. The carburetter was by Rolls-Royce itsself and was a twin jet updraft type. -- Last edit: 2006-05-25 14:25:05 |
2007-01-08 00:18
| anyway I pretty doubt, that 30 HP will make with this elephant to 100 in 12,5 seconds  |
2007-04-18 20:43
| The Sultan of Hatai was not a connoisseur ! It is a 20/25HP, chassis #GPG4 with Barker saloon body... It was owned in Spain, where this scene was shot. To set the record straight I'll change the soundtrack to "RRRolls-RRRoyce 20/25, 3.7 litre engine, 25 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with SU type carburetor, can go from zero to 100 kilometres per hour in ... a certain time. And I even like the colour." ;o) |
2007-04-18 22:34
| "Phantom II" sounds much better, I guess that they thought that nobody would notice the mistake  |
2007-09-26 14:36
| Did the Nazis ever use Rolls-Royces? It doesn't seem right for them to use a car built by one of their enemies. |
2007-09-26 14:44
| That was 100 kilometres per hour, not miles per hour, that's only 62mph. Even so, I doubt it could reach that speed anywhere near as quickly as 12 seconds, if at all! -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 14:45:14 |
2007-09-26 15:08
| I thought about kilometres of course as well.. Anyway my opinion is about twice that time, maybe even more, as this car weights about 2 tons and it has 30 HP .gif ":)") |
2007-09-26 15:09
| I pretty much doubt that - as they had Horch, big Mercedes' etc. |
2007-09-26 15:18
| Could they not have commandeered or seized any vehicle they wanted to in countries they had invaded rather than waste resources transporting non-military vehicles from Germany? Would be seen as quite a 'prize' I would say? -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 15:19:15 (G-MANN) |
2007-09-26 15:38
| The horsepower rating given to British cars was based on a formula devised by the Royal Automobile Club (RAC) and was used for many years as a way of classifying British cars, especially for taxation purposes. An engine with an RAC rating of 16/65 would be regarded as being a 16hp engine (for taxation) with a brakehorsepower output of 65bhp. At the time the formula was devised it was reasonably accurate but technology soon made it obsolete from a technical point of view, even though it continued to be used as a basis for taxation. Thus the Rolls Royce's 30hp would be its rating, not its power output. Britain was not the only country to use such a system - that's why one of France's most famous cars is known as the 2cv! |
2007-09-26 17:25
| @wickey and G-Mann: in the movie the bad guy (I actually don't remember his name) says to the Sultan something like that "A lot of wunderful, valuable things, given by the honourest and richest families in Europe" - it's a sideswipe. The Nazis have stolen all valuable property from the Jewish people, in the 30ies in Germany and Austria, during the war everywhere else. This is the reason about the discussion, which exists still now, about a lot of artefacts and other valuable things with an unknown or hidden history in the 30ies and 40ies. Anyways, a similar discussion is running about things with an unknown history in later times. So everywhere in the "Eastern Block"-countries the Soviets, especially the Red Army, picked up a lot of stuff not really legally. But not only them alone. I've read, that the biggest raid of artefacts in history was made by the U.S.Army! It was a train, hidden in an Austrian tunnel, fully loaded with things, which the Nazis had stolen before from the Jewish people in Budapest. -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 17:38:06 |
2007-09-26 17:40
| It's just that in this film the Nazis use that Rolls as a staff car (it's got the Nazi flags on it), even if they stole cars made by enemy countries, would they use them as staff cars? Wouldn't it have been seen as sacrilege? |
2007-09-26 17:50
| I'm sure its more likely that they thought "in time we will own Rolls Royce once we invade Britain and control all of Europe". -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 17:57:41 (G-MANN) |
2007-09-26 18:00
| Yeah, they probably still admired Rolls-Royces even if they were British. But then I've heard of WWII veterans who wouldn't buy German or Japanese products (which rules out a lot of electronics). |
2007-09-26 22:26
| @G-Mann: during the war the Wehrmacht and SS has required cars and other things everywhere. So during the war in France after 1940 a lot of soldiers has driven Citroen CV 11, Peugeot 402 and so on. Under the German occupation Citroen and Peugeot have mainly produced cars, mainly trucks, for the Wehrmacht and SS. But this has not too much to do with the situation in this movie, also not with my last posting. I mean, that this Rolls Royce was required/stolen from a Jewish family. Also the "Indiana Jones"-movies are located in the pre-war-time, in 1937, as I remember. I've seen these movies several times. O.k., it's a Hollywood-movie, so it's different to the historical facts. So you can see soldiers in the light brown uniforms of the "Afrika-Corps", also a VW Kübelwagen (which was destroyed by the british WW I tank afterwards) all these things haven't existed in 1937. -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 22:28:38 |
2007-10-05 23:55
| Re: the question if small chassis RR were used by the Germans in the war: there was a report in the war in Autocar showing Goering being driven whilst visiting Paris, in a Convertible Rolls Royce. Autocar says it notes that the quality was appreciated by the Germans, however that Rolls royce Motors were very busy producing material to ensure Herr Goering would not be amon its post-war customers... -- Last edit: 2007-10-20 22:04:11 |
2008-05-14 00:44
| I've really enjoyed reading everyone's comments! I've also wondered about the Nazi's using Rolls-Royces especially in this scene (where the car is directly talked about). |
2008-05-22 09:23
| Added information: The specs given by the Sultan... "4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg downdraft carburetor" is actually that of the newer Rolls-Royce 25/30. -- Last edit: 2008-05-22 09:31:06 |
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