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1929 Associated Daimler 4-5 Ton [Type 508]

1929 Associated Daimler 4-5 Ton [Type 508] in Belhelvie Jubilee Gazette 1935, Documentary, 1935

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin:

1929 Associated Daimler 4-5 Ton [Type 508]

00:20:37 Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

Author	Message
dsl ◊ 2016-07-09 20:48	Scene at quarry weighbridge And again in additional footage at 41-12
Sunbar ◊ 2016-07-09 21:57	Possibly also seen in 'Repair Depot' at 00:21:32 Two words beginning with 'A' ? in name on radiator but not clear currently 'Asward' something or Associated - nothing found to date.
dsl ◊ 2016-07-09 23:05	I've got some repair depot captures, but hadn't connected them. Its plate is AV-3xxx (with hyphen) = 1929-30 (or earlier if 3, 3x or 3xx) Aberdeenshire. Staring at this plate I now agree it matches. Agree 2 long words - beginning with A and maybe S. Seems Armstrong Siddeley never made trucks, which was inconsiderate of them.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2016-07-10 09:40	Associated Daimler, or Armstrong Saurer, but my money's on the first. At least a couple of us a) like vintage and b) can even recognise some of them without having to look them up. Without dsl's interesting contributions I should not be a member here. I have no interest in any vehicle built after about 1970, can't recognise any American cars, or any Asian vehicles so would have very little to say. We have a saying in UK "each to his own" somewhat similar to "chacun à son gout", it seems there may be no German equivalent. https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertgrounds/4782923104 -- Last edit: 2016-07-10 11:11:54
Sunbar ◊ 2016-07-10 11:54	Associated Daimler, I agree johnfromstaffs. I thought 'Associated' initially but after finding little for Associated Daimler then I went onti a completely different tangent. Also agree about what you say about mostly old vehicles, anything from horse-drawn derived vehicles in the 1880s including steam, to the 1950s. The development of car and truck manufacture over the first half of the 20th century is what interests me recently.
Sunbar ◊ 2016-07-10 12:22	If the wheelbase appears to be shorter than the ADC type 507 or 509 in the flickr link, then the ADC type 508 4-5 tonner with short 12ft 6in wheelbase introduced October 1926 possibly. -- Last edit: 2016-07-10 13:37:34
dsl ◊ 2016-07-10 21:06	While we're doing trucks with strange radiator badges, what's this?? Taken from some footage of construction of a cinema in Edinburgh, about 1929. Doesn't seem to be a proper film, so not posted.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2016-07-10 21:51	Quite clear when you run the film, it's a Vulcan. It looks big for a two or two and a half tonner, according to Wiki, there was a four tonner from 1926. -- Last edit: 2016-07-10 22:20:36
dsl ◊ 2016-07-11 00:04	@ jfs, Sunbar and JCB (and maybe Mike as well??) - there's a lot of stuff scattered through this one - https://vimeo.com/92127724 . I've never seen an A70 Woodie van before But again sadly I don't think it qualifies as a proper film for us. Have scouted through most of the other stuff in that vimeo collection but think I've got enough from it.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2016-07-11 14:26	Back home after a long weekend of incredibly bad weather. The black car is, I think, a Sheerline, so it could be an Austin dealer's premises.
Sunbar ◊ 2016-07-11 20:57	johnfromstaffs wrote Quite clear when you run the film, it's a Vulcan. It looks big for a two or two and a half tonner, according to Wiki, there was a four tonner from 1926. A quick CM archive based search for Vulcan 2½-Ton and 4-Ton trucks suggests this could be a 2½-Tonner by the more upright radiator, the 4-Tonner having an almost square radiator shape. January 1923 20-25cwt truck October 1924 2½-Ton truck and 30cwt Subsidy truck May 1925 4-Ton truck
dsl ◊ 2016-07-12 18:07	Vulcan postscript which I stumbled on by accident. 1961 Glass's Commercials Check book (the oldest one I've got in a very small collection) lists Vulcan spares suppliers as the mighty Rootes Group - 3 dealers (Birmingham, Canterbury, London) and Maidstone HQ. Seems Vulcan were bought by Tilling-Stevens in 1938, who in turn were bought by Rootes in 1951.
Sunbar ◊ 2016-07-12 19:02	Grace's Guide (edited) information 1931 Vulcan went into receivership but the receiver managed to keep production going until 1937. 1937 Vulcan works owned by J. Brockhouse and Co who sold the rights to the motor vehicle side of the business to Tilling-Stevens. 1950 Tilling-Stevens was taken over by the Rootes Group and a new 7 tonner appeared at that year's Commercial Motor Show in London. Rootes had their own established commercial makes in Commer and Karrier and both Vulcan and Tilling-Stevens vanished finally in 1953.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2016-07-12 19:38	But the works in Maidstone continued in production as the source of the wonderfully noisy Rootes TS3 two stroke diesel, otherwise known as the Commer Knocker. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0sLp7wvq60 -- Last edit: 2016-07-12 19:42:10
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2016-07-14 09:54	dsl wrote I've never seen an A70 Woodie van before The A70 Hampshire Woodie style panel van was built by Frank P Grounds of Aston, Birmingham, but there were also conversions of BQU2 pickup chassis by Jennings of Sandbach, Whitacre of Stoke-on-Trent, Papworth Industries and Hooper(!) which certainly included vans, but I can't say from the pictures I have which one this is, although the cutouts on the back wings resemble those used by Grounds. There would also be local small firms converting the odd one or two, but I am a bit short on knowledge of 1950 Scottish coachbuilders, sorry. /vehicle_150555-Austin-A70-Hampshire-Countryman-BW3-1951.html /vehicles.php?make=Austin&model=A70+Hampshire+Van&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on -- Last edit: 2016-07-16 13:27:31 (dsl)

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