Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin:
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◊ 2014-10-03 22:22 |
It is a MAN (maybe a 520 HN) |
◊ 2014-10-04 08:54 |
MAN-Saviem |
◊ 2014-10-04 21:26 |
Que signifie l'appellation "Saviem" en plus de la marque ? Ils étaient montés en France ? |
◊ 2015-04-30 19:57 |
@ DidierF: From what I understood, MAN and Saviem had indeed an agreement from 1964 onwards, but it concerned at first only engines for the Saviem JM (where M stands for MAN...). In 1967, they started the rebadging of the heavy version of the MAN H as... Saviem-MAN H: see the 1967 part in the Renault de Papier page about construction trucks. Next steps of this collaboration would be the 1968+ MAN 270 and 485, siblings of the SG2 and SG3, and the 1970+ "bonneted" SMH / SMHT truck (SM=Saviem-MAN), rebadged version of the face-lifted MAN H. For the record, the unofficial name of the H is Hauber (die Haube = the hood). Anyway, as • the movie was released one year before the unveiling of the Saviem-MAN H trucks, • the Saviem models have a slightly different grille from the MAN model (due to the logo in it. See the previous links), • "ours" is a "light" model (here a "light", here a heavy one), which apparently never had an equivalent in the Saviem truck line, we may deduce that this trucks is "just" a 1955+ MAN Something L or Something H. Most probably a 1960+ model due to the 2 chrome bars between the grille and the headlamps, which would make it a 1960-61 Something L (400 L to 635 L1) or a 1962-66 Something H (415 H to 650 H), depending apparently on the payload and on the engine (1). The MAN category in the IMCDb is a real mess for now, with a lot of model names which seem to have just been guessed (1), but some similar models to this one seem to have the [H55] code. I don't know where it comes from (Hauber 1955, date of its unveiling?), but as long as it allows this truck to be grouped together with its siblings... _____ According to lkw-infos.eu (de), the 1953+ MAN naming nomenclature use 3-digit names where the first one is for the payload and the 2 others (+100) for the engine power. For example, a MAN 650 stands for a 6-Tonne payload truck with a 150 hp engine. I just wonder one again how one can "see" the payload and the power when the truck is seen from afar or when the grille emblem is not visible... (No clue is given for the later nomenclature, but from what can be read in some tables of lkw-infos.eu, it looks as if a 8.156 would mean a 8-Tonne truck with a 156 hp engine, and so on) -- Last edit: 2015-04-30 20:03:30 |