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1993 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.0 MkIII

1993 Ford Granada MkIII in A Mind to Kill, TV Series, 1994-2002 IMDB Ep. 1.04

Class: Cars, Hatchback — Model origin: DE — Made for: GB

1993 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.0 MkIII

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

AuthorMessage

Sandie SX

2010-12-17 22:30

Doubles for the Vauxhall Carlton before appearing again as an armed response police car.

[Image: CarltonInteriorDifferent.jpg][Image: ScorpiosameasCarlton.jpg][Image: ScorpiosameasCarlton.jpg]

An earlier Granada in this episode:
[Image: FordGranadaH672CGV.jpg][Image: FordGranadaH672CGV.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2011-07-18 02:30:28

Lateef NO

2010-12-17 22:48

In my opinion the 2nd one could be seperated, as it's a hatchback version in contrast to the two others, but considering there aren't any "good" shots of the hatchback, I will agree on leaving it as it is.

Lateef NO

2011-02-26 19:23

I don't know if it was any different with the Granada, but for the Scorpio, I think the only models available with a 2.0 litre engine in 1993 were the 2.0 DOHC and the rarer 2.0 EFI.

-- Last edit: 2011-02-26 19:25:23

Gomselmash11

2011-02-26 19:26

For the third Thumbnail, its 1992 model.

Lateef NO

2011-02-26 19:33

:??: all the top thumbnails are 1992-94 models, yes, but by the plate, it's registered in early 1993 (yet it doesn't show up on DVLA nor HPI) - so it can be fake (meaning it's best left as a 1992, as you point out) - but it wouldn't change the engine type, as most of the 2.0 engines were discontinued in 1989.

Gomselmash11

2011-02-26 19:38

Okay, yes, i see and not appears in DVLA. I dont know if its the same trim... or its different.

dsl SX

2011-02-26 20:11

webuyanycar gives Registration: L530FMO
Manufacturer: FORD
Model: GRANADA HATCHBACK 2.0i Scorpio 5dr Auto
Model Year: (1989 - 1994 Model)
Colour: GREEN
Transmission: Automatic
Engine Size: 1998cc.
So it's genuine.

Gomselmash11

2011-02-26 20:15

@ dsl: most exactly this:
Make FORD
Model GRANADA SCORPIO I A
Year of Manufacture 1993
Engine Size (cc) 1998
And yes, its totally genuine.

Lateef NO

2011-02-26 20:17

I was talking about K792 GWN, but you probably knew that. But look, it lists it as a 5dr hatchback, yet that car in the main image is quite clearly a 4dr sedan! What's going on here? I disagree about the plate being genuine now.

-- Last edit: 2011-02-26 20:18:13

Gomselmash11

2011-02-26 20:21

For K792GWN probably fake, but dsl knows

Lateef NO

2011-02-26 20:24

I'm saying, L530 FMO probably belongs to another Granada because it's listed as a 5dr, yet somehow the car in question is a 4dr.

Sandie SX

2011-02-26 20:29

I thought it was the same car too so maybe a trick of the camera.

In the script it is meant to be two different cars (maybe even three) in the episode. The images in the thumb are from a scene where most of the exterior scenes show a Vauxhall Carlton (also fake registration K792 GWN).

I may have to re-watch the episode to see if it's a hatch rather than a sedan.

Gomselmash11

2011-02-26 20:32

Agree with Sandie

Lateef NO

2011-02-26 20:38

:o taking sides now, are we? :p

dsl SX

2011-02-26 20:46

L530 FMO. Either there's a gremlin in the data - which sometimes happens - or the plates belong to another Granada. I'm not a Granadaologist, but I think the main matches Aug 93 onwards update for UK Granada Scorpio 2.0 - body colour door handles and mirrors, side strip with bright insert. L-plate started Aug 93, so dating matches.
K792 GWN. No trace on any check site, and I can't check if the Kxxx GWN series was actually issued as my data stops at 1991. But door mirror is black, so a pre-Aug 93 car and appropriate in this respect for a K plate. May be genuine - just not captured by DVLA in the early days of computerising their database. Ironic, as WN is a Swansea combination and DVLA is based there; also local to the filming area.

-- Last edit: 2011-02-26 20:49:31

Sandie SX

2011-02-26 21:50

Seems to be a hatch, also for some reason having a police crest towards the rear of the side:

[Image: Granada.jpg][Image: Granada2-1.jpg][Image: Granada3.jpg]

I also found a better view of a car I missed out.

No record for K791 GWN or K793 GWN suggesting they did not make it that far into the sequence.

-- Last edit: 2011-07-18 02:32:46

Lateef NO

2011-02-26 21:56

:o ok then, sorry for any inconvenience... but then it shouldn't have been listed as a sedan in the firstplace - maybe that's what confused me - changing to hatch now.

dsl SX

2011-02-27 13:55

K792 GWN is probably a fake combination as L792 GWN is genuine - a white Astra - and it's unlikely that a full cycle of plates from GWN round again to GWN would occur within a year; K792 AWN and BWN do come up as genuine cars (which suggests that this series has been captured by DVLA - so overtaking my suggestion above that DVLA may not have been up to speed at this time). So for whatever reason, it looks as if the producers wanted to create a realistic but fake combination.

I also had a general thought about fake/switched plates. It is an offence to switch car identities, so I'd guess when the producers want to disguise a car's actual identity, their guidelines would stop them using a genuine combination from another car. It may be easier - legally - to invent an unused combination - can anyone comment? I'd also guess that if you're filming on private land, you can use any plates you like, but for public road scenes, film companies still have to respect number plate laws. Therefore in this case, are all shots of all cars with K792 GWN on private land? If not, someone's been naughty.

Ingo DE

2011-02-27 14:04

Quite stange anyways, that the very most plates in British made movies are authentic (80-90% surely, my impression) and to verify/identify by DVLA. In German made productions it's the total opposite. Cars, driven by actors had mostly (for 90% minimum) faked plates.

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