1975 Simca 1000 with retro 1960s front [950]

1975 Simca 1000 [950] in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, Movie, 2023 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: FR — Built in: MA

1975 Simca 1000 with retro 1960s front [950]

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zodiac SE

2022-12-15 19:10

It's a difficult one.

Perhaps a 1000?
The problem is whether one should go with the black rear light surroundings (only available on some of the Rally versions) or with the wheels with hubcaps (suggesting at least a Special or a GLS).
The problem with the former is the rarity and the lack of other features, and with the latter is the lack of a chromed strip on the sills.

As also having a side strip at waist it might, on the other hand, not be a 1000 at all, but a 1006 GLS.
Perhaps this one /v001039147.html already identified.

-- Last edit: 2022-12-15 19:23:20

dsl SX

2022-12-15 19:55

Too blurry for me to say anything precise apart from poverty bumper and late wheels, but 1005 and 1006 had different larger bumpers set higher; nothing suggests a high trim - no side features, headrests or tints. Permutations might depend on where made if this is non-French build - I don't think this is one of the Glasgow-filmed clips :whistle: . Hopefully full film when released will enable clearer capture than the trailer.

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Gag Halfrunt UK

2022-12-15 20:02

This scene was filmed in Morocco. You might recognise the star on the building.

fred1969 FR

2022-12-15 20:52

I don't think it was the SIMCA 1000 that was lower; I think it was a FIAT 125 1967-72
What bothers me is the shape of the front fender, straight at the wheel... :think:

130rapid PL

2022-12-16 17:12

1969 MY tail lights. Pretty basic trim - no jewellery, black windows' sealing...
Almost Sim'4, however wrong wheels with circular vents. Maybe taken from upper trim car? :think:

fred1969 FR

2022-12-16 19:58

130rapid wrote wrong wheels with circular vents.


...that's what makes me think of FIAT, indeed, I think it's a DIY car...

CRAFT372 US

2023-06-28 23:39

1 star

02GRN FR

2023-07-12 21:17

It's a strange one indeed... :think:

After seeing the film, I thought seeing two blue Simca 1000s in the Moroccan scenes (or the same one in different scenes). The first one was a view from the front, and it clearly had the two headlights from a Simca 1000 (not 1005 or 1006 as they had squared headlights), so I'd bet something that that car was indeed a Simca 1000.

However, seeing this one makes me doubt a lot, as it is very blurry, and I can't see the rear engine vents.

However I'd still bet on this one being the same Simca 1000 I described. A FIAT 125 would be slightly bigger than this one compared to the Peugeot 403 and also the C-Pillar should be thicker to be the FIAT. The 125 also had a fake vent on the aforementioned pillar which this one doesn't clearly have

02GRN FR

2023-07-13 14:24

Sorry that I will have to correct myself. In this thumbnail, the car clearly has the tailights of a 1977 Simca 1005 (1978 had a black bar around them), but I perfectly recall seing the two, characteristic headlights of the Simca 1000. So it seems that the producers used a Simca 1977 1005 with the front of a Simca 1000?

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Btw, I could not find any picture of the front of the car online

dsl SX

2023-07-13 16:54

Or if this is Morocco as suggested above, likely to be a local build. Maybe they didn't follow exactly same recipe as French builds, particularly the final updates?? Agree it smells mid-late 70s for trim details with black instead of shiny stuff, but can't say anything more. Hopefully more pictures will emerge??

02GRN FR

2023-07-13 17:59

Je viens de tomber sur (très probablement) la même voiture sur l'Internet, mais l'annonce n'est pas plus disponible, donc malheureusement ça va pas servir de grand chose, car seulement les photos restent.

Elle était annoncée dans quelque part du Maroc.

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02GRN FR

2023-07-13 18:02

En plus, elle a les feux avant jaunes, pourtant je pense qu'elle est une version française, pas l'espagnole de Barreiros

mike962 DE

2023-11-25 11:58

same one ??

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mike962 DE

2023-11-25 12:00

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dsl SX

2023-11-25 13:55

If they're all the same car the pre-68 front doesn't match the post-68 rear. Unless there's some local build quirk where they kept the old front for much longer than French builds?? Or it's a mongrel rebuilt with wrong bits after a crash?? Has unusual rear badge - maybe again a local quirk??

dsl SX

2023-11-25 14:01

Looks like different shiny rear trim over the plate here
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... suggesting 2 cars used

02GRN FR

2023-12-10 17:09

As I explained above in French, I thought I had found the car on the internet. The ad had been removed (it had been on sale in Morocco), but the pictures were still visible.

I think it is the same car in the different thumbnails, as it matches with the one that had been on sale... this would probably make it a rebuild

02GRN FR

2024-03-21 23:42

Link to "www.avito.ma"

Here it is, I bet it is the same car used in the movie

dsl SX

2024-03-22 00:47

Ok - front and rear don't match, so one end has been rebuilt. Agree it's all probably the advert car, helpfully described as - "Année-Modèle - 1980 ou plus ancien".

So a new angle of attack - when did the 1000 lose its quarterlights?? Our collection suggests maybe about 1975 (before rectangular headlight update in Aug 76), but without giving a clear split as there are overlapping dates (:think: maybe a clean up needed??).

So I'm voting mid-70s (date TBC) genuine rear and cabin with a retro front (which replaced either very late round lights or early rectangular lights). A narrow date range (2 years??) before 1005/1006 arrived with new rear details and lower side strip on side.

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