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◊ 2020-06-02 00:27 |
origin UK, not D. Back then "Ford UK" was noticed as make in the Fahrzeugbrief. -- Last edit: 2020-06-02 00:28:51 |
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◊ 2020-06-02 00:30 |
there is a lot of Mk1 Transit with Germany as origin , does it applies to them too ? |
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◊ 2020-06-02 01:55 |
LWB. ^ Simple question, difficult answer. In mid-late 1960s, Detroit started pressuring Ford UK and Ford D to collaborate towards a Ford Europe instead of competing with each other. The Transit was the first attempt, but Ford D did not pick up their share so it became driven by Ford UK. Same story for the Escort, but then the Capri became the first properly shared project, although each country insisted on using their own engines. Ford D played their cards to lead the Taunus TC project and won, with the Cortina Mk3 twin being a lash-up to give the impression of equal participation. And then gradually Ford D kept being given lead responsibilities with Ford UK sidelined. All of which is too complicated to really untangle, so our usual policy is to let Europe and most LHD examples be origin D, while British and Commonwealth and other RHD markets become origin UK. It's not absolute science, but broadly works - most RHD markets and overseas RHD CKD assembly were supplied by UK, while Genk in B (as a surrogate for D) fed LHD markets and their builds elsewhere. But Transits are slightly odd in one respect - as far as I know (which is not much further than wiki) they never built Transits of any generation in D. So you could argue that they should all be origin UK, but that's only clear cut for early Marks, after which UK was only one of many countries involved. So if origin D is removed as misleading (which it could be - Ingo and I are on the same page here) it leaves open how to fill the hole. Origin UK is OK, but not strong enough to stand alone for particularly later marks. And Ford UK stopped building Transits in 2013, leaving a global free-for all. So in conclusion - I agree Origin D is wrong for any Transit, but trying to work out a better answer would be a nightmare. So maybe we just leave it alone - it's a crack in the wall, but we've learned to live with it and don't really notice it these days. |
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◊ 2020-06-02 02:08 |
ok, thanks for the explanation .gif ":)") should this one be back with Germany as origin like it was before i changed it ? -- Last edit: 2020-06-02 02:32:05 |
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◊ 2020-06-02 03:09 |
^ Only if you want a furious Ingo on your case .... I've put in a long-winded solution. |
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◊ 2020-06-02 09:12 |
Concerning the “shared” projects, there was a very noticeable increase in quality between the Cortina Mk1 and the Cortina MkIV/V. I have owned a selection of mid European Fords, 63 Anglia, 65 Cortina 1500 dl, 69 Capri XL, 73 Capri L, 76 Granada I 2l Estate, 79 Cortina 2l GL Estate, 84 Escort 1.6GL, 86 Escort 1.6 Ghia, and the improvement over the years was very noticeable. It seems German standards percolated into GB production to good effect. With the exception of the Escorts, all were bought second hand, from low mileage 1 year old, the 69 Capri, to several years and nearly 100k miles, the Granada. The MkV Cortina impressed me the most of all, an excellent Ford, even if replacing the voided bushes in the rear suspension caused a deal of swearing. -- Last edit: 2020-06-02 09:31:09 |
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◊ 2020-06-02 09:13 |
Well, what means "furious" - I noticdd this case, when I checked a bunch of old Fahrzeugbriefe on a spare parts market. In that one of a 1967 Transit was remarked "Ford GB" as make. P.S. AFAIK the Transit I Diesel versions with the long nose are correctly all listed as origin GB. -- Last edit: 2020-06-02 09:21:38 |
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◊ 2020-06-03 00:02 |
Agree, once made a wonderful tour de France with a Taunus 2.0 V6 90HP smooth running engine + changing of gears was most noticable. Later i have known the man who constructed the gearbox and made him a compliment! |
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