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1982 Ford Granada Break 2.8i Ghia MkII

1982 Ford Granada Break MkII in Tout doit disparaître, Movie, 1997 IMDB

Class: Cars, Wagon — Model origin: DE

1982 Ford Granada Break 2.8i Ghia MkII

Position 00:19:05 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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antp BE

2006-01-03 23:05

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Saturn Simon UK

2006-01-04 19:09

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It's a Granada, not a Taunus.

sixcyl FR

2006-01-04 19:20

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Absolutly right SatSim ..

DIEHARD NL

2006-01-04 20:28

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and an MkII Estate

sixcyl FR

2006-01-04 20:31

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Yes, but "Estate" not proper designation for a Ford on the french market... if I'm not mistaken :) ...but we should check how was named the "estate" at this time ...Break?... I do not remember.

antp BE

2006-01-04 20:33

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They were not yet using "Clipper" ?

sixcyl FR

2006-01-04 20:43

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..maybe?... Clipper was surely applied for french Ford of the 90's (Escort ...), but I'm not sure aboud Taunus or Granada of the 70's/80's

DIEHARD NL

2006-01-04 21:36

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You could add MKII though, that is not dependable on the country :)

Isn't it 'Turnier' or is that the German term?

sixcyl FR

2006-01-05 00:54

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no MkII in the french designation of Ford at this time

DAF555 SE

2006-01-05 01:43

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Quote no MkII in the french designation of Ford at this time


Was the Mk ever given by the factory for their vehicles?

antp BE

2006-01-05 09:47

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At least for Jaguar, yes. VW uses a number without "Mk", same for Renault. The only Peugeot that needed it was the 106 and it used "S2" internally (other Peugeot models only had small restylings). For the others I do not know.

DAF555 SE

2006-01-05 13:54

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I was thinking of Fords, but it´s true that some manufacturers use some equivalent of Mk. At least in sales literature, less common badged on the vehicles.
Anyway, Mk is a british designation and most Granadas outside Britain are not so I believe it´s not always applicable. Isn´t it enough just to add the first modelyear, if the exact year can´t be figured out?

DIEHARD NL

2006-01-06 20:28

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This one is built after 1982, hence the in colour grille and the new bumpers..

Junkman UK

2006-01-08 04:07

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It is a series 2 (MK II is NOT an official Ford designation, but used by Ford fans to differentiate between the models) post facelift (built from September 82 as an 83 model, then virtually unchanged until the end of production of this car line in Summer 85) Granada Ghia, as can be seen from the wing (fender) badges, the three pane grille with chrome surround, the chrome bumper corners (would be plastic pieces on lesser Granadas) and the bodyside moldings with the chrome inlay. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about, I own four post facelift Granadas, among them the very same car. "Turnier" was the official model designation for all Ford estates in Germany. In England it is called "estate", because this is the generic British term for this type of car. What the car was called in other export markets is beyond my knowledge. Also, a 2.0i (which would be a four cylinder) was not available in those years, since the only injected European Ford engine then was the 2.8 (Cologne) V6. The series 2 post facelift Granada Ghia was available only with the 2.3 carburettor V6, 2.8 carburettor V6 or 2.8 injection V6. Automatic gearboxes were standard with the Ghia, manual ones optional. I suggest the badge on the tailgate reads 2.8i, unless someone can convince me that a 2.0i was available in France (I wonder why there would have been no injected four cylinder Ford engines marketed elsewhere in the world, but learning about Ford marketing strategies never ceases to amaze me) and sends me one of these engines, preferrably still in a Granada and backed by a 5-speed manual. Cash waiting. I think the car in the pic is a Ford Granada Ghia 2.8i though.

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DIEHARD NL

2006-01-08 11:28

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A 2.0i engine sounds indeed rather unlikely, when you think about the limited availabilty of fuel injection in smaller engines in those days. However in my opinion it could very well be that Ford had smaller engines in the Granada in France. As this has been the case for many other manufactures which where on the French market. The reason to put smaller engines in big cars is the French tax system. It rates how many CV a car has and the owner has to pay the appropiate tax. So when you have a big car with a small engine, the tax is relatively low. This could be the reason for the 'small' 2.0 engine in French Granadas.

Junkman UK

2006-01-09 11:25

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"Lesser" Granadas than the Ghia were available to my knowledge with the 2.0 OHC 'Pinto' engine, or, at least in Germany, with a 2.0 Liter version of the 'Cologne' V6. Both of these engines were carburetted. I want to know which 2.0i engine was available from Ford to the French market in 1983-85. Until that is clarified, the badge on the back of this car reads 2.8i to me, or someone stuck it on from a 'later 'Scorpio' Granada for whatever reason.

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antp BE

2006-01-09 12:18

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If I remember well, in the movie it was clearly 2.0 rather than a 2.8, here with the JPEG compression it may be 2.8 as you suggested. I'll check later.

bruno

2006-02-08 19:36

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From France... It seems to be a 2.8 i, the chrome grid with two spaces was reserved for the best models. In France, a 2.0 L (Carbu) 4 Speed is 11 CV and a 2.8 Ghia (carbu) automatic is 15 CV . Automatic gearboxes are more taxed than manual, and 4 speed cost more than 5. The car on the photo was a Ghia, but the sign on the wing disapeared at painting (not a great color !). The very last cars had plasic made bumper sides, so , I think this one is a 2.8i "Break" (The french word for estate, not it's destiny) made from 1982 to 1984. At least, some cars had a 2.1 and 2.5 "Indénor" diesel engine, the same as Peugeot 504 and 505.

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