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1992 Seddon-Atkinson 2.11 HEIL Colectomatic 17.16 Refuse truck

1992 Seddon-Atkinson 2.11 in Common As Muck, TV Series, 1994-1997 Ep. All S1

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1992 Seddon-Atkinson 2.11 HEIL Colectomatic 17.16 Refuse truck

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dsl ◊ 2018-07-23 01:14	JCB wrote Could this be our first 5 star Seddon Atkinson Yes. Ep1.01 - main and Ep1.02 - less prominently featured, but ever present J605 SJA ✗ Untaxed Tax due: 10 May 2001 MOT No details held by DVLA Vehicle make: SEDDON/ATKINSON Date of first registration: May 1992 Year of manufacture: 1992 Cylinder capacity (cc): 0 cc Fuel type: DIESEL Export marker: Yes Vehicle status: Not taxed Vehicle colour: RED Vehicle type approval: Not available Wheelplan: 2-AXLE-RIGID BODY Revenue weight: 17000kg "Hepworth District Council" (fake name), "Direct Operatives Group". 17.16 grille badge. "NEIL(?) Colectomatic" body.
Exiv96 ◊ 2018-07-23 03:34	17.16 then. The few I've found on Google enjoy an active retirement in Malta. https://maltabuses.piwigo.com/picture?/7850/category/101-atkinson_seddon_s_a http://i49.tinypic.com/5k0yo2.jpg
dsl ◊ 2018-07-24 02:51	Ep1.03
dsl ◊ 2018-07-25 15:28	Ep1.04 - featured prominently again after a couple of quiet eps Atkinson logos on door handle and steering wheel We've identified this vehicle using the details you provided SEDDON ATKINSON 2-11 SERIES N17 P16 1992 Registration number: J605SJA Body type: Refuse Disposal Colour: Red Date of first registration: May 1992 Does 2.11 make more sense for us?? -- Last edit: 2018-07-26 15:01:08
jcb ◊ 2018-07-25 23:42	Odd one as here is a similar 2-11 for Manchester with Norba body ( From the days when British Taxpayers money could buy trucks built by British Workers, local ones at that ! ) However first post ninth thumb above clearly shows it as badged 17-16 -- Last edit: 2018-07-26 16:06:20
dsl ◊ 2018-07-26 14:54	Ep1.05 - with more sightings of 17-16 badge
dsl ◊ 2018-07-26 15:08	See bold plate info. This one has a 17.16 grille badge, but same 2-11 SERIES N17 P16 reference as the 2.11 badged 1 example (although is different Heil body instead of SAM). Also the 24.21 badged 1 SAM body example contains the same 2-11 SERIES reference alongside M24P21 in its plate info. So are all these basically 2.11, with the other number combinations simply something to do with the refuse bodies rather than separate models??
jcb ◊ 2018-07-26 16:04	Think I've cracked it with above clues , I believe they are body builders Seddon Allen Municipal ( SAM ) numbers and the first number refers to the gross weight in tonnes and the second to the body capacity in m3. The 24.21 listed above is a 6 wheel 24 tonner according to dvla and the smaller 4 wheel ones will gross at 17tes. So the 17.16's are all simply 2.11's ( Seddon Atkinson's model number ) a google search will bring up many 2.11 references. -- Last edit: 2018-07-26 16:08:58
dsl ◊ 2018-07-26 16:27	So switch this 17.16 to 2.11?? And the 24.21?? (But not merging, due to different body builds and sub-numbers). Next question - is it SAM Colectomatic (see for instance the 3 Seddons and Seddon-Atkinsons in A Very Peculiar Practice or SAM Collectomatic as seen for instance in Exiv96's Maltese links above?? (This one is clearly Colectomatic, but Heil or Neil rather than SAM)
jcb ◊ 2018-07-26 16:43	Yes the four wheelers are a 2.11 which is the Sudden Accident model number. The 24.21 is not a 2.11 but I don't know what it is at the mo. Are we talking about the L ? it's a single L. Another doubt though is are these definetely SAM's the Norba in thumb above is very similar indeed. See here for some interesting comments- /v046427.html -- Last edit: 2018-07-26 16:54:05
jcb ◊ 2018-07-26 18:00	mmm 17.16 nowt to do with bodies just a further Seddon Atky designation after 2.11 see- -- Last edit: 2018-07-26 18:01:05
dsl ◊ 2018-07-26 22:53	Ep1.06
jcb ◊ 2018-07-27 21:39	Only just noticed the Heil Colectomatic writing on the side of body upper front , so no doubt about that 'In 1973, Heil set up their own body manufacturing plant in Hillend in Scotland, (Hillend Environmental Industries Ltd., or HEIL) so that the bodies no longer had to be imported. This was in accordance with an agreement that when Jack Allen had sold 100 Heil units, an assembly plant to supply Jack Allen and the rest of Europe would be set up. ' And fortunately still making refuse bodies in Scotland- https://www.hillendeng.com/farid-hillend-engineering-products/product-family -- Last edit: 2018-07-27 22:09:11
Hugh Jaleak ◊ 2021-02-03 20:20	Bit late but for the record, I think the 17.16 referred to Gross Vehicle weight, and Net engine HP divided by 10. So 17 tonnes with a 160hp engine. Likewise the 24.21 would be a 3 axle chassis, gross weight of 24 tonnes and 210 hp engine. In comparison today, I drive a 3 axle Volvo plated at 26 tonnes with a 370hp engine.

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