1949 Austin K4

1949 Austin K4 in Rosamunde Pilcher - Mit den Augen der Liebe, Movie made for TV, 2002 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: UK

1949 Austin K4

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AleX_DJ AT

2016-08-04 10:05

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johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-04 11:04

1949 Austin K4. Ex Devenish Brewery I think.

http://www.truck-photos.net/picture/number15486.asp

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Sunbar UK

2016-08-04 12:08

Given the 1949 date this would be the 1948-1949 Austin K4 Series I 4-5 Ton 158" wheelbasebase truck. For 1948 it had the 4 litre 6 cylinder engine (replacing the 3.5 litre unit) or the option of a Perkins P6 diesel engine. The same engine was then used with the new cab as the K4 Loadstar Series II.

Unable to check DVLA at this time regarding any engine capacity details.

dsl SX

2016-08-04 13:15

Registration number: FOW 486
✓ Taxed Tax due: 01 October 2016
MOT Exempt
Vehicle make AUSTIN
Date of first registration 04 February 1949
Year of manufacture 1949
Cylinder capacity (cc) 0cc
Fuel type PETROL
Export marker No
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour GREEN
Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight 3501kg

Sunbar UK

2016-08-04 13:36

Thanks dsl. Pity the DVLA let us down with engine size again.

The headlight position is unusually low for Austin K2/K4 (more like Bedford's) and bonnet sides have no louvres; remembering this is a restored example. However I have found no other 1948-1949 examples to compare details. Were these changes anticipating the Loadstar cab, to confirm engine cooling and headlight height? I rather doubt it but possible I guess.

edit: This 1948 Austin K4 with 3 litre engine (edit: should read 4-litre see following comments) has the usual headlight position and bonnet louvres (Australian example but Longbridge built).

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johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-04 15:26

According to "The Motor Vehicle", Newton and Steeds, 5th edition 1953, published by Iliffe and Sons London: -

"The sturdily designed Austin six cylinder commercial vehicle engine of 3 1/2 litres capacity" actually 3460cc from cylinder dimensions of 85 by 101.6mm, was replaced by the 4 litre (3995cc) version giving the same power output of 67.5bhp at 2700 rpm instead of 2900 rpm. This corresponds with the changes made when the engines were used in the Sheerline and Princess funeral followers, although in more powerful states of tune. However the book is somewhat vague on the date when the change occurred. The basis of the engines dates from 1938/9, and the Austin Sixteen car used a four cylinder version (2.2 litres) of the unit from 1946, further developments resulting in the A90 and Austin Healey 100/4. It finished its days in the taxi/hire car and the Gipsy.

I am not aware of a 3 litre capacity version.

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Sunbar UK

2016-08-04 15:46

My error, johnfromstaffs.

I got confused (easy these days) converting the Australian vehicle's engine size from cubic inches...

My original data was 3,993cc 6-Cyl Petrol or 4,730cc Perkins Diesel for 1948-1949 and unchanged on the introduction of the K4 Loadstar series II.
Although I cannot now say the source of the exact capacities or if they are correct.

CM archive has it as '4 litre petrol'.

"The chassis is powered by an Austin six-cylindered four-litre petrol engine, an alternative unit in the case of export models being the Perkins P.6 oil engine." for Loadstar series II.
Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-04 16:21

You get confused........

2 1/2 year old twins and two dogs making this place look like a Tom and Jerry cartoon gets me confused!
Hopefully the twins' mother will pick them up in a couple of hours, leaving me to cook dinner for self and Rosemaryfromstaffs, who is out drinking tea somewhere.

I have double checked the capacities, 3460cc as above and 3993cc from dims of 87.3 by 111.1mm for the larger engine, according to the Sheerline entry in "The cars of BMC" by Robson, who confirms that the engines are the same design in both truck and car application.

I bet that the Austin car salesmen kept quiet about the source of that engine! 67.5bhp in the truck and 130bhp in the Princess, but only four main bearings compared with seven in a Bentley MkVI.

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Sunbar UK

2016-08-04 16:52

Good luck with the twins and the dogs!

CM give the bore and stroke dims mostly, but unusually in this case printed the capacity as 3,459cc, for the 3½ litre but I can live with it rounded up or down.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-04 19:09

Twins have gone home, dinner is ready, dogs are fed and in their beds digesting their dinner, time for a quick tincture before SWMBO gets back.

Can't be too bad.

Ingo DE

2016-08-04 19:27

johnfromstaffs wrote Twins have gone home, dinner is ready, dogs are fed and in their beds digesting their dinner, time for a quick tincture before SWMBO gets back.
Can't be too bad.


I feared, that your sentence could end up with: "time for a marvellous sophisticated Rosamunde Pilcher hardcore watch"

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-04 19:44

No, no, no.

Much as I enjoyed my very recent trip through parts of your wonderful country, enough is enough.

Edited highlights of today's cricket, plus more brandy will do me fine.

Ingo DE

2016-08-04 20:03

johnfromstaffs wrote No, no, no.
Much as I enjoyed my very recent trip through parts of your wonderful country, enough is enough.
Edited highlights of today's cricket, plus more brandy will do me fine.

:??: There are no coherences between "your beautiful country" (btw.: where exactly have you been?) and "cricket", or? This would be definitely impossible.

P.S. I think about to go to Beaulieu again (first September weekend). Anyone else, too?

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johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-04 20:37

Entered Germany via Paris, two night stay plus sightseeing.

http://hotelducollectionneur.com

Train to Luxembourg City,

Coach, no idea what make, too modern, to Remich on the Moselle.

Embarked upon ship.

http://www.avalonwaterways.com/River-Cruise-Ships/Avalon-Visionary/

Moselle cruise with stops, to Koblenz, sailed towards Zurich through Rhine Gorge, then turned round and sailed back to Koblenz overnight, then along Rhine to Amsterdam, making stops on the way.

Day in Amsterdam touring on canals in sight seeing boat, overnight in Amsterdam, fly back to Manchester.


Cricket on TV in England, rather than watch Rosamunde Pilcher on a DVD.

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Ingo DE

2016-08-10 20:36

johnfromstaffs wrote Entered Germany via Paris, two night stay plus sightseeing.
http://hotelducollectionneur.com
Train to Luxembourg City,
Coach, no idea what make, too modern, to Remich on the Moselle.
Embarked upon ship.
http://www.avalonwaterways.com/River-Cruise-Ships/Avalon-Visionary/
Moselle cruise with stops, to Koblenz, sailed towards Zurich through Rhine Gorge, then turned round and sailed back to Koblenz overnight, then along Rhine to Amsterdam, making stops on the way.
Day in Amsterdam touring on canals in sight seeing boat, overnight in Amsterdam, fly back to Manchester.
Cricket on TV in England, rather than watch Rosamunde Pilcher on a DVD.


@johnfrommstaffs: looks interesting, have you enjoyed it? Due the programme-frame you had probably no possibility to think about an IMCDb-user-meeting ;)
Maybe the time will come, when my wife an me think about a river-cruise (an ocean-cruise rather not - we would eat too much there). Years ago we traveled thiy way on the River Nile, but to make that here in Europe, we are not in the appropriate age, we think.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-10 23:50

It was excellent, thank you for asking.

34 degrees in Paris was a bit too much, I do not use age as an excuse, but we are both approaching 70.

The cruise was excellent, and I can recommend the organisation, it is a German firm and the ships are very comfortable. This is the second time we have been with them and I have no complaints. As you say, schedule meant it would be difficult to make "off-piste" calls unless to someone living very close to a stopping point.

DynaMike NL

2016-08-10 23:58

I could have waved to you from the side of the Amsterdam canals ;)

Ingo DE

2016-08-15 12:58

DynaMike wrote I could have waved to you from the side of the Amsterdam canals ;)

And I could have waved you from the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesel_Railway_Bridge

whose arches are partly used to store light airplanes in, from the
http://www.lsf-wesel-rheinhausen.de/zu-gast-bei-uns/

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-08-15 14:18

I looked at that bridge and thought that it must have a history of that sort. It's a bit awkward for me as an English person to talk about such things especially to German people, my generation is so much closer to it all as our parents were involved directly. My father spent most of the war in Egypt, in the RAF, helping provide air support to the army, and my uncles were also directly involved. The war even enveloped my grandfather, a retired policeman who was instructed to go back to work for the duration of hostilities since many of the young policemen left to join the armed services.

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