1946 Dodge 121 'Major' 6-Ton

1946 Dodge 121 in Pool of London, Movie, 1951

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin:

Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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dsl ◊ 2014-07-09 13:05	What's the first plate letter? H? M? N? Or..?
jcb ◊ 2014-07-09 14:01	Think its an MG6947 Belongs to Wm.J.Sims of Winchester Square SE1
dsl ◊ 2014-07-09 14:33	MG series not directly dateable between 1930 and 1949
jcb ◊ 2014-07-09 14:39	That would fit with lorry type.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2014-07-09 14:40	This cab was introduced about 1936 and remained available until replaced by the Briggs Motor Bodies cab apparently shared with Ford and Leyland. The vehicles were available in various weight capacities and chassis lengths, but I have been unable to find any model names. -- Last edit: 2014-07-09 19:30:45
antp ◊ 2014-07-09 18:25	How do we list that? The only other MG-something on the site seems to be /vehicle_247585-Dodge-1-Ton-MG-40-1937.html
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2014-07-09 19:37	antp wrote How do we list that? The only other MG-something on the site seems to be /vehicle_247585-Dodge-1-Ton-MG-40-1937.html That appears to be the previous series to the pictured vehicle. The model shown above had a shorter bonnet, with the front axle further back and (presumably) the engine protruding into the cab like an O series Bedford. There was also a snub nosed version, and a Perkins diesel powered model, although that could be a retrofit. -- Last edit: 2014-07-09 19:38:51
jcb ◊ 2014-07-09 20:07	antp wrote How do we list that? The only other MG-something on the site seems to be /vehicle_247585-Dodge-1-Ton-MG-40-1937.html MG refers to the registration number not the type of vehicle
jcb ◊ 2014-07-09 20:10	Does not seem to have a range name- Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
Sunbar ◊ 2014-07-09 20:45	The Commercial Motor frequently avoids model names or types relying on weight classes... UK wartime models were type 82a and 101a although where the change-point in the range I have not found. The 82A had five stud wheels http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p959582705/h25efb5ec#h25efb5ec The 101A (which probably included the 'Major' 6-Ton model) had eight stud wheels http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p959582705/h5a13fa3a#h5a13fa3a edit: We have this listed as an existing vehicle and the size of truck could be similar so 'Dodge 82A' also for this new listing? /vehicle_641477-Dodge-82A-1943.html -- Last edit: 2014-07-10 20:58:11
jcb ◊ 2014-07-10 09:30	Looks like a 101A from above info , but only one photo of others on net so should we stick with 82A as generic ? - -- Last edit: 2014-07-10 09:38:30
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2014-07-10 10:15	Looks like a 6 Ton to me. The only model name I have seen is 100, but that seems to be applicable to the Parrot-Nose models.
Sunbar ◊ 2014-07-10 11:27	In one example a Dodge 101A was classified as 5-Ton long wheelbase pictured with a 5-stud front wheel in 1944. Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com" If the truck is indeed a 6-tonner its a 6-Ton 'Major', so Dodge ???? 'Major' 6-Ton. However I cannot confirm if the AECsouthall.co.uk '1943 Dodge 101A Fire Appliance' with an eight stud wheel is a six-tonner, or if its listed correctly. Perhaps a 6-tonner long wheelbase should be 121A, if the numbering sequence is consistant? -- Last edit: 2014-07-10 12:15:15
Sunbar ◊ 2014-07-10 12:06	johnfromStaffs wrote Looks like a 6 Ton to me. The only model name I have seen is 100, but that seems to be applicable to the Parrot-Nose models. Parrot-nosed models from 1949-1956 are as follows... Dodge 64 2-3 Ton 11ft 9in w/base (standard) Dodge 103 5-Ton 9ft 11in short w/base Dodge 105 5-Ton 13ft 9in long w/base Dodge 123 6-Ton 9ft 11in short w/base Dodge 125 6-Ton 13ft 9in long w/base 1953-1956 Dodge 140 7-Ton short w/base Dodge 141 7-Ton 14ft 4in long w/base Which confirms the earlier number-codes as representing the tonnage in 'cwt' with extra letters/numbers for type? -- Last edit: 2014-07-11 16:08:45
dsl ◊ 2014-07-10 12:49	Probably a 1946 registration - my comment here /vehicle.php?id=56527 for a 1947 TC with MG 7423 plate that MG 6938 was a 1946 TC/Midget. DVLA details for MG 6938 are: Date of Liability 01 06 2015 Date of First Registration 22 01 1946 Year of Manufacture 1946 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1250cc etc....
Sunbar ◊ 2014-07-10 12:53	1940s Models (before Parrot-nose introduction) Dodge 40 1½-2 Ton n/control 10ft 4in std wbase Dodge 41 1½-2 Ton f/control 10ft 4in std wbase Dodge 60 2-3 Ton n/control 10ft 4in short wbase Dodge 61 2-3 Ton n/control 12ft 6in long wbase Dodge 80 3-4 Ton f/control 9ft 4in short wbase Dodge 81 3-4 Ton f/control 10ft 4in medium wbase Dodge 82 3-4 Ton f/control 13ft 6in long wbase Dodge 83 3-4 Ton f/control 14ft very long wbase Dodge 84 Bus chassis f/control 14ft 9in Dodge 84C Com Bus chassis f/control 14ft 9in Dodge 100 5-Ton f/control 9ft 9in short wbase Dodge 101 5-Ton f/control 13ft 6in long wbase Dodge 100 P6 5-Ton f/control 9ft 9in short wbase Perkins diesel Dodge 101 P6 5-Ton f/control 13ft 6in long wbase Perkins diesel Dodge 120 6-Ton f/control 9ft 9in short wbase Dodge 121 6-Ton f/control 13ft 6in long wbase If the pictured listing is 6-tons long wheelbase then Dodge 121 is applicable. edit: Dodge models 60A, 80A, 80B, 82A 101A and so on are later developments of the main 80, 100 etc. designs with variations of f/cont, n/cont, wheelbase and/or engines. -- Last edit: 2014-07-11 16:20:59
jcb ◊ 2014-07-10 16:22	To be honest I wouldn't describe these as forward control , but if thats what the makers say . I know the Beford O series was sometimes described as semi forward control . -- Last edit: 2014-07-10 16:24:48
antp ◊ 2014-07-10 17:19	JCB wrote MG refers to the registration number not the type of vehicle Indeed I misinterpreted dsl's comment
dsl ◊ 2014-07-10 18:14	I'm just a soul whose intentions are good....
Sunbar ◊ 2014-07-10 18:35	JCB wrote To be honest I wouldn't describe these as forward control , but if thats what the makers say . I know the Beford O series was sometimes described as semi forward control . As you say semi-forward control like the Bedford O-type but Dodge UK in their literature describe these as forward control. Reading more of the 1930s and 1940s contemporary literature 'forward control' (or rarely 'semi-forward control') is commonly used on most small or medium sized truck makes where the cab is shifted forward by one or two feet to increase the length compared with the load area on a normal control chassis. There is still a considerable length of engine or bonnet length therefore at the front and only a small amount of engine length intrudes inside the cab. -- Last edit: 2014-08-06 13:13:54

1946 Dodge 121 'Major' 6-Ton

1946 Dodge 121 in Pool of London, Movie, 1951

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