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◊ 2014-01-17 19:09 |
Wow, a Sunbeam Venezia... Bodied by Touring, introduced in Fall 1963. |
◊ 2014-01-17 19:12 |
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◊ 2014-01-17 19:22 |
very very rare !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
◊ 2014-01-17 19:39 |
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◊ 2014-01-17 20:29 |
The normally accepted story of how and why it emerged is complicated and slightly unconvincing for some elements. The starting point is that Rootes were designing the Series IV Audax family (Minx/Gazelle/Rapier) but at the last minute decided to launch these as a separate range (Super Minx/Vogue/Sceptre) alongside the Series III Audaxes which continued unchanged (which is why there is no Series IV Minx or Gazelle - they went straight from Series IIIc to the rebodied Series V). A low roof Series IV version was designed to become the new Rapier Series IV, but was switched to Humber branding and became the new Sceptre model. Meanwhile, Humber was being lined up to launch a new coupe, but this was switched at the last minute to become the next Sunbeam Rapier replacement, complete with Humber detailing (eg grille, lights etc); however the proposal was too close to the Alpine so was stopped. This left the S3 Rapier hanging around neglected, so it got a slight upgrade to S3A and later a mild facelift with a squashed grille to continue into the S4 and eventually S5 versions. Then as a separate development Touring started assembling Super Minxes for Italy, and were offered the now abandoned ex-Humber coupe design which they accepted, modified slightly and launched as the Sunbeam Venezia. (I've also seen comments that Touring designed the Venezia all by themselves, but I think the ex-Humber adoption is actually more solidly referenced). The problem I have with the full story is earlier within Rootes own planning - that Humber with its tradition of big 4 door saloons intended to switch to a smallish 2 door coupe, while at the same time Sunbeam was planning a 4 door saloon after several years of 2 door coupes and sports cars. In other words each seems to have intended to do the opposite of their brand profile, so I suspect that there was more to this part of the story than is currently known. -- Last edit: 2014-01-18 12:31:54 |
◊ 2014-01-17 20:31 |
Sorry for beeing the party pooper here, but you have realised, how and where this car is standing here? |
◊ 2014-01-17 23:30 |
Sadly, you're right indeed. Built in 1964, scrapped in 1974 obviously. Despite its rarity, it did not live longer than the commonplace Fiat right next to it. |
◊ 2014-01-18 10:35 |
That's why I love to watch trashy Italian movies, too. Often there are junk yard scenes with gems such as the car above. |
Sirens ◊ 2014-01-18 10:50 |
Why can't I see this (circled in red) in the main picture? ![]() -- Last edit: 2014-01-18 10:51:30 |
◊ 2014-01-18 14:37 |
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◊ 2014-01-18 14:40 |
Err, it's well visible and very obvious, too ![]() |
◊ 2014-01-18 15:08 |
How many survivors are known? |
◊ 2014-01-18 15:18 |
/vehicle_325128-Sunbeam-Harrington-LeMans-1962.html |
◊ 2014-01-18 15:56 |
Only forty-eight cars... |
◊ 2014-01-18 16:09 |
So one third - o.k. for such a rarity, incredible much for common bread-and-butter/porridge cars. Their usual survival rate is less than 1%, often not even 0,1% |
◊ 2014-01-20 00:46 |
One third is a pretty good result as far as I'm concerned. Only Rolls-Royce and Porsche and probably some other exotic luxury brands (and Land Rover from what I've heard) manage to achieve a survival rate of 50% and more. |