Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin:
Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase
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◊ 2009-05-30 05:44 |
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◊ 2009-07-13 15:10 |
This car is a BJ8 (3000 Mk III), Phase 2 (1964 - 1967) and so is not a "1957". The BJ8 registry has a record of a car that has some of the same external features, including the unusual dual amber lights under the headlamps and the badge in the lower grille just to the right of center. There is a funky door mirror on the left door (only) that is not visible in the photos above, but can be seen in the Home Improvement episode. A car with these same features (although painted red) was offered on eBay in May 2003 out of Nevada and subsequently went to a dealer in Vermont and then on to Colorado. Its whereabouts today are unknown. I believe this car is HBJ8L/34963, pending a more definitive identification. [11 Jan 11: I was eventually able to get in touch with the owner of the car described above, and he confirmed it is NOT the one that was on Home Improvement.] In the Home Improvement episode, the car was bought by Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor's wife, Jill, as her own. Tim was not allowed to drive it, but sneaked it out for a spin anyway and was caught on camera. The car was featured in two or three other episodes of the show. Tim Allen did own a BJ8 Healey at one time, but I don't know if this is the actual car he owned or not. Steve Byers (sbyers(at)ec(dot)rr(dot)com) HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -- Last edit: 2011-01-11 23:57:15 |
◊ 2009-08-06 20:29 |
Actually it is revealed to be a 1967. |
◊ 2011-01-12 00:04 |
Since the cars were not built in "model years", but in "Marks", all North American specification Phase 2 BJ8s with separate turn signal/parking lights in front were pretty much identical in configuration to all other Phase 2 BJ8s, whether they were built in 1965, 1966, or 1967; so "1967" as it applies to BJ8s is not definitive. One cannot tell in which year a Phase 2 car was built just by reference to its configuration. A car built in 1965 or 1966 may be registered as a 1967. |
◊ 2011-01-12 05:22 |
These "floating" model years must drive DMVs nuts. They need a specific year, no "floatiness". |
◊ 2011-01-29 16:28 |
Model years have traditionally been significant in the USA because one model year's configuration is usually quite different from another model year. DMVs require an identification of "year" because they expect that that provides satisfactory distinction between that car and the next "year" model. But for BJ8s manufactured in different years, they can be identical in every way. When BJ8s were in production, California required that all cars sold there have a code in the VIN to indicate manufacturer's name and year. Since BMC did not structure their VINs in accordance with California's laws, they had to add a black and white plastic tag that read "BMC-65", "BMC-66", etc., (but only on cars originally shipped to California). On titles, California DMV also added two digits in front of the factory VIN to indicate the year: 67HBJ8L/XXXXX. This has caused later owners some grief when the car got sold out of California, especially to a foreign country, and the paperwork VIN did not match the actual number on the VIN plate exactly. Also, a car once registered in the USA as a 1967 model year is frequently found in Europe registered as a 1965 because Europeans observe the manufacturing year and not the USA model year. Two BJ8s could have been built on the asssembly line on the same day in June 1966 and both shipped to the USA. However, one of them got sold and registered immediately as a 1966, while the other sat around into the new model year in September and was sold as a 1967. So, you can't simply tell the year of a BJ8 by its appearance. USA DMVs aren't aware of this so have no recognition of "floatiness". Besides, BJ8s are not being sold new anymore and DMVs just transfer the year from the previous title. -- Last edit: 2011-01-29 16:32:50 |
◊ 2012-07-05 19:06 |
from Ep 8.04 looks a lot greener ![]() |
◊ 2012-07-05 19:23 |
... and has normal 65-67 sidelight colours. |
◊ 2013-05-20 01:44 |
This car was white in 1970. George ? was a hairdresser in DC. (One client was Cliff Robertson's wife.) Our shop had rebuilt an older Healey for him and painted it BRG ( The last time Jill's Healey appeared on show it was also green ) The car made frequent trips from DC to PA and George wanted a "stealth" color. It had to be on the way back to DC in 16 hours. There were some dents but no rust. Dupont Centari with no hardener- 1969 Chrysler Charcoal Grey. Metallic enamels dull and get worse when polished. Actually pretty good for a 20 year old repaint Notice the white door jams. |