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1967 Citroën 2CV AZA

1967 Citroën 2CV AZA in American Graffiti, Movie, 1973 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: FR

1967 Citroën 2CV AZA

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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DynaMike NL

2007-02-10 03:03

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New type of grill makes it a 1967. Interesting headlights; US spec?

-- Last edit: 2007-02-10 03:08:39

francisharley FR

2008-01-25 20:34

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Une deudeuche "bien de chez nous".
Derrière la plaque américaine on aperçoit l'immatriculation française (75 = Paris)
A l'arrièe le "F", obligatoire à l'époque pour passer les frontières. (Je me suis fait refouler à la frontière belge because je n'avais pas le "F" à l'arrière de ma moto. C'était en 1972) :cry:

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supercinco ES

2008-09-09 00:00

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So, this 2cv was originally sold in France and afterwards taken to the US ?

I've always wondered what the hell was doing a 2cv in America in the age of the big block V8's ...

blk95ta US

2009-03-22 02:47

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i'm pretty sure this is pre 1967. the movie was supposed to be set in 1962 so i would think they would have found one from before that

DynaMike NL

2009-03-22 12:07

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No way a 1962 model: those had suicide doors, smaller bumpers, a different grille with the double chevron in it, no third side window (except some models built in Belgium, but those windows had a different shape), smaller indicators... But in the eyes of most people one 2CV resembles another and 'nobody will see the difference'.

G-MANN UK

2009-06-13 00:11

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While all the other teenagers in this film get to cruise around in classic American muscle cars, poor old Curt Henderson (Richard Dreyfuss) is stuck with this French peasant's car, it even breaks down on him!

-- Last edit: 2009-06-15 00:51:36

Kooshmeister US

2009-06-13 15:52

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Actually, I'd kill for one of these. The American muscle cars just don't do a thing for me. :)


-- Last edit: 2009-06-15 00:51:46 (G-MANN)

carobserver MX

2009-06-14 00:29

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this car is a total anachronism for this movie

wth are doing a tiny winy low powered french car in a gas-guzzlers cars land?

also for the model, 1967+ in a 1962 situation

besides, that car is wasnt sold in USA even in 1962

chicomarx BE

2009-06-14 01:03

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So when was the 2CV officially sold in the US? I know Billy Joel had one, and crashed it a couple of years ago...

But it's not referred to at all in the movie, you're expected to laugh at the mere sight of it.

electra225 IT

2009-12-04 12:54

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The 2CV was sold, without success in the USA betweem about 1956 and the early sixties, when it was superseded there by the Ami 6, another flop. Only DSs were quite well sold Citroens in the USA.

130rapid PL

2010-01-07 01:47

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electra225 wrote Only DSs were quite well sold Citroens in the USA.


...if three thousands by year can be "good sale". ;)

tfaerch DK

2010-10-05 09:26

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electra225 wrote Only DSs were quite well sold Citroens in the USA.

And they did sell some SM's as well

-- Last edit: 2010-10-05 09:27:24

G-MANN UK

2012-02-07 20:17

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Looks like this is the only car from beyond this film's time period (1962). I always felt sorry for Curt having to drive this when everyone else in the film gets these great big American cars.

-- Last edit: 2012-02-07 20:17:35

Cycolac Fan EN

2012-09-05 23:28

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Is there a point to be made that the only guys who leave town (Curt and Terry who joins the army in '64) drive foriegn vehicles?
Terry had a Vespa.

They obviously wanted free- thinking Curt to not be a cruiser and to drive a vehicle that reflects his lack of interest in flash cars and chrome. An MG or Triumph sportscar would have been too upper class. Maybe a Fiat 500 would have been better?

G-MANN UK

2012-10-04 00:28

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I think they made Toad have a Vespa scooter instead of his own car because he was a bit of a geek. Maybe they gave Curt such a crappy car (sorry to 2CV fans) so that there's more of a reason why he spends the night riding around with other people.

-- Last edit: 2012-10-04 00:36:24

portacker US

2013-03-04 16:08

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Filmakers artistic choice. Curt is an outsider, car is outside the norm. Horrible cheap dangerous loud smelly and slow, but beyond the norm, that's for sure.

Andre Malraux RO

2013-03-04 16:31

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G-MANN wrote such a crappy car


portacker wrote Horrible cheap dangerous loud smelly and slow


:no: :no: :no:

2CV is a great car! :love:

G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 17:14

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Maybe if you're a farming peasant and it's that or a donkey. But in the golden age of the American automobile it would have been a joke.

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Andre Malraux RO

2013-03-04 17:23

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Only for the snobs. :D It has personality. It's an interesting car. And historical. Along with Traction Avant and DS/ID it's one of the most iconic Citroens. It reminds me a time period which I love. ;)

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G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 17:24

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Andre Malraux wrote And historical.


Not then it wasn't! I mean you wonder what 1960s American in the right mind would have it, unless they were a hippy or something. I'm guessing you must have had to go out of your way to buy a 2CV in 60s America given how far from the norm it was, and it couldn't have much of a cool factor (whereas the Beetle did quite well in America)

It must have been a bit like buying a Smart, I reckon people buy them out of choice rather than really not buying able to afford a normal car.

-- Last edit: 2013-03-04 17:26:23

antp BE

2013-03-04 17:28

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G-MANN wrote
It must have been a bit like buying a Smart, I reckon people buy them out of choice rather than really not buying able to afford a normal car.

Smart is not especially cheap. Those who buy that one want an especially small city car. If you want a cheap car there are cheaper and bigger choices than a Smart.

dsl SX

2013-03-04 17:29

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Sounds like a potential forum vote - Citroen 2CV versus an example of "the golden age of the American automobile" - what d'you want to nominate - a Cadillac or Lincoln something-big-and-dripping-chrome-and-fins? I'm voting 2CV for being such an effective fit-for-purpose design and for being so much fun.

G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 17:30

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Exactly, antp. I couldn't see myself getting one.

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Andre Malraux RO

2013-03-04 17:31

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G-MANN wrote Not then it wasn't!


But it is today. The american cars contemporary with 2CV were not historical neither, at that time. I admit that a 2CV in USA, in the '60s and '70s, was an eccentricity, but that not means it's a crappy car.

G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 17:36

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A 2CV would be better than a ginormous American car for driving French villages and country roads. But in the time and place this film is set in, I think you'd look like an oddball in the 2CV. If we forget about time and place, I appreciate the 2CV's place in car history but I'd still much rather have the big, beautiful classic American motor.

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Andre Malraux RO

2013-03-04 17:39

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G-MANN wrote I appreciate the 2CV's place in car history but I'd still much rather have the big, beautiful classic American motor.


+1

But I still like the 2CV. So why not have them both? :p

G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 17:40

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But which do you really prefer?

antp BE

2013-03-04 17:44

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G-MANN wrote Exactly, antp. I couldn't see myself getting one.

If I had to often park in city streets I'd like to have a Smart or Toyota iQ. Or at least something else not too big. But these two are really nice for the city.

G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 17:46

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dsl wrote I'm voting 2CV for being such an effective fit-for-purpose design and for being so much fun.


So, what's it really like to drive?

Andre Malraux RO

2013-03-04 17:46

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G-MANN wrote But which do you really prefer?


I already said: une belle americaine. However, I strongly protest against the terms used about the 2CV. :lol: Besides... for Europe, the 2CV was an interesting car. That's why I love it: because it's so typicaly European. More than that: so typicaly French. :D

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G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 17:51

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Andre Malraux wrote Besides... for Europe, the 2CV was an interesting car.


Yes, I'm sure you're right. When I said "crappy" in my original comment, I really meant it's crappy (flimsy, tiny, basic) compared to 60s American cars. I didn't mean it's a completely worthless car (although I know that might not have been absolutely clear ;) )

-- Last edit: 2013-03-04 17:54:15

Andre Malraux RO

2013-03-04 18:26

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BTW: one of my favourite 2CV is this one: /vehicle_13667-Citroen-2CV-1971.html . The movie is great, one of the best gangster movies ever made (the french gangster movies of the '50s, '60s, '70s and early '80s are the best, even better than american ones, on this point I'm categorical). In the movie, this 2CV is the gangster's car. Not so typical for a gangster car, but this add a touch of realism to the movie (in reality, gangsters don't use always cool cars). And it's also a funny thing. As if it would not have been pathetic enough for a gangster car, it has a black panther sticker on the hood, for being more "cool". :sun: French humour. :lol:

P.S.: If you have not seen this movie, you must see it. It worth every minute of your time, believe me. Directed by and with Alain Delon. Delon is the best. They just don't make them like that anymore. In 50 - 100 years, most "french" actors will be arabs and negros. :D

A tribute to this great actor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYYoIJkakGE .

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dsl SX

2013-03-04 18:39

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G-MANN wrote So, what's it really like to drive?

I once had a knackered late round light Charleston for 3 weeks zipping round Scottish highlands and islands - absolutely brilliant. Teaches you a new way of driving to anticipate hills/overtaking/keeping momentum, but an enjoyable lesson. Also superb for hill/farm tracks - would trickle along at 5 mph up anything due to torque, but usually at an angle as not wide enough for tractor ruts so one side in the tyre track and the other along the central ridge.

G-MANN UK

2013-03-04 21:10

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Sounds good :)

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