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Saturn Simon ◊ 2005-12-26 15:21	That....is....a blurred picture!
Bebert ◊ 2005-12-26 16:59	Sorry, can't do better !
stronghold ◊ 2005-12-27 13:57	It could be a Singer Gazelle.?
greenbank ◊ 2006-01-02 10:58	I think Stronghold nailed it. The other alternative would be the badge-engineered Hillman Minx, but the grille is all wrong for that. Though I thought all of the Gazelles got a white flash down the sides...hmmm. The other option might be the Sunbeam Rapier, though that car had little fins out the back, which the blur is, er, blurring.
Sunbar ◊ 2006-02-21 14:14	Still finding it hard to determine what it is, but the windscreen has far too much wrap-around at the "A" pillar to be a Singer Gazelle I think. There is a corresponding cut-out at the top front edge of the door (which picks up the light relected in the photo) which does not appear on the Gazelle also. - Still looking I think.
Sunbar ◊ 2006-02-24 14:36	By the shape of the windscreen, front door and tail light area - Rover 3 litre Saloon Mk 1 1958 I think. http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7584/1958rover3lmark133ig.png -- Last edit: 2006-02-24 14:41:28
Jun ◊ 2006-02-24 15:04	Once I thought it a Rover P5, but this car seems has no door window frame...due to a blurred picture?
DIEHARD ◊ 2006-06-05 14:16	In my opinion this looks like a Rover P5...
Alexander ◊ 2006-06-05 16:16	Definitely not a Rover. Look at the image with corrected aspect ratio: To me it looks like a drophead-coupé with a slight resemblance to the Sunbeam Alpine.
Sunbar ◊ 2006-06-05 16:38	In the changed picture looks a lot larger than an Alpine. Without a clearer picture I doubt it will be identified.
Cedars ◊ 2006-07-23 19:03	Could be an Alvis 1960 TD21 Mulliner Park Ward saloon check here: http://www.alvisoc.org/Site%20Files/Picture%20Gallery/Pages/091.htm or a Rover - if that's a trim running down the side, Alvis's don't have that. It's too big to be anything like an Alpine - they were about waist high. -- Last edit: 2006-07-23 19:11:08
Bebert ◊ 2006-07-23 20:10	C'est pas idiot comme piste. J'en ai trouvé d'autres, de la même teinte, ça colle pas mal...
antp ◊ 2006-07-23 21:00	Bon bah on va prendre ça alors comme nom
Sunbar ◊ 2006-07-24 12:56	cedars wrote Could be an Alvis 1960 TD21 Mulliner Park Ward saloon check here: http://www.alvisoc.org/Site%20Files/Picture%20Gallery/Pages/091.htm or a Rover - if that's a trim running down the side, Alvis's don't have that. It's too big to be anything like an Alpine - they were about waist high. Unfortunately, I cannot agree about it being an Alvis TD21. The one area where the main picture is clear to me is that the movie vehicle has a windscreen that wraps around sharply at the ends by the 'A' pillar. Because of this, the front edge of the door is well ahead of the base of the 'A' pillar and there is a cut-out in the top-forward edge of the door. This catches the light in the picture. The Alvis has a flatter windscreen and the front edge of the door is inline with the 'A' pillar, so does not need this cut-out area. The front edge of the door has a normal square corner on the Alvis, as most cars have. So for me this cannot be the Alvis. The only car I have found that closely matches this (and has the chrome strip on the door) is the Rover. -- Last edit: 2006-07-24 13:05:21
sixcyl ◊ 2006-07-24 13:37	I agree with Sunbar. IT CANNOT BE an Alvis TD21,as for the reasons he exposed such as the distance between front wheel and windscreen vertical projection, much smaller here than on the Alvis, in another way the bonnet of the Alvis is longer. The problem with Rover P5 possibility is about what mentionned Jun ...we don't see the window frame of the front door, but there is ambiguity about what the lady is holding with her right hand... ( I will avoid any bad joke at this time ) -- Last edit: 2006-07-24 13:41:15
Sunbar ◊ 2006-11-08 11:46	Further captures from the movie. The front of the car is shown slightly better in the first three, I think for me it confirms the front grill is from the Rover but I'm still looking at the images because they are still dark without a lot of detail. This shows the front door frame plus the front glass and quarter-lite.
sixcyl ◊ 2006-11-08 13:05	Fine Sunbar ... there is no doubt for me, it's a Rover P5 and thumbnail N°4 shows it is the Saloon and not a Coupé (P5B). With no additional head lights, we can state it is 3 Litre and not 3,5 Litre, then before 1968. So either: Rover 3 Litre 1959-1962(P5) Rover 3 Litre MkII Saloon 1963-1965 (P5) Rover 3 Litre MkIII Saloon 1966-1967 (P5) as the pictures are defenitively too blurry we cannot say which one of these very similar 3 versions is the good one. So I suggest the 1st one
Sunbar ◊ 2006-11-08 13:12	Thanks for your identification, sixcyl. This is one that's been worrying me for some time.
Alexander ◊ 2006-11-08 13:37	Bravo, Jean-Marc and Sunbar! And sorry to Diehard and Jun, as I so strictly ruled out your correct suggestion!
sixcyl ◊ 2006-11-08 13:57	thank you Alexander, but the credit is mostly Sunbar's who investigated with stubbornness to the solution
Sunbar ◊ 2006-11-08 14:08	Drinks all round I think. Alexander, questioning an identification is always valuable and appreciated because I like to try to find positive features rather than just say it must be a certain vehicle because of a 'gut-feeling'. So thanks for all your comments. Jean-Marc I still could not positively identify it this morning so your comments were appreciated. After looking at the pictures so long I could still only say it was possibly a Rover P5.
antp ◊ 2006-11-08 17:46	sixcyl wrote thumbnail N°4 shows it is the Saloon and not a Coupé (P5B). It is still listed as a convertible, it is an error I guess?
sixcyl ◊ 2006-11-08 18:44	antp wrote It is still listed as a convertible, it is an error I guess? Indeed! ...it's obviously a sedan
rpcm ◊ 2007-01-30 03:38	With its quarterlights on the front doors it's a July 1961(+) MkIA or a July 1962(+) MkII [P5]. Before that, the P5 didn't have front doors with quarterlights. -- Last edit: 2007-10-27 20:42:03
sixcyl ◊ 2008-11-11 19:46	Ladies and gentlemen ... it is time for truth ! One can say that this identifiaction has been tough one , now let's consider this picture and one say there is stil a mistake...this P5 is not a 1963 MkII Saloon, but a 1966-67 3-Litre MkIII Saloon ... An option among 3 that I'd suggested in my comment of November 2006 (two years ago )
sixcyl ◊ 2008-11-11 19:55	For the archive, Bebert's picture:
Sunbar ◊ 2008-11-11 20:24	Hooray, that Main picture is sooooo much better sixcyl
sixcyl ◊ 2008-11-11 21:55

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