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1954 AEC Reliance Duple Elizabethan Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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◊ 2006-02-03 23:48 |
I am not sure that it is a Leyland Royal Tiger. For the moment this is the closest I get. The Film is playing in Germany but produced by a British company. |
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◊ 2006-02-04 12:34 |
The lower badge has the shape of an AEC (therefore a Reliance or Regal IV) but you can't see the detail to be sure. The upper badge is either for the coach operator or for the body builder, I believe. I've had a lower quality screen capture of this on my own website for some time, but no-one's identified it for sure. Alexander, do you have a higher resolution capture? |
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◊ 2006-02-04 12:40 |
...if you look at the capture of the red coach the lower badge on this one does look like a Royal Tiger. The red one could also be a Royal Tiger, by the way. I'm working on it.......:-) |
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◊ 2006-02-04 12:45 |
Since the picture is already 720x576 (DVD picture size) I believe that it is not possible to get a bigger one. Maybe a less-compressed picture will give more detail? -- Last edit: 2006-02-04 12:45:37 |
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◊ 2006-02-04 14:48 |
The transfer onto the DVD is not good. Here is another picture of the front. ![[Image: whirlpool07aleylandroyaltiger8.8462.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is56/whirlpool07aleylandroyaltiger8.8462.jpg) It is quite obvious that this part was filmed in the UK. The number plate is clearly a fake and the bus entrance is on the left hand side. |
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◊ 2006-02-04 19:17 |
Alexander, thanks for this, we can see more detail - still more questions than answers. This is a scan of a Royal Tiger badge from the Douglas Jack book, 'The Leyland Bus'. The image in the middle looks right, but the shape of the badge is wrong........ http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=royaltiger5dt.jpg I could well be wrong about the red coach - it may be a Leyland Comet, but I'm still working on that too. -- Last edit: 2006-02-04 19:19:56 |
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◊ 2006-02-06 00:45 |
I've been consulting with someone who knows his 1950s coaches a lot better than I do - he said AEC Reliance 4 years ago when I first asked him, he's sticking with that. The bodywork is Duple Elizabethan. He's suggesting the owner is Sheffield United Tours, but I'm in the process of checking that out with a guy who has made a study of Sheffield United. The red coach he's confirmed as a Bedford SB with Duple Vega bodywork. |
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◊ 2006-02-06 10:21 |
Thanks .gif ";)") |
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-- ◊ 2006-02-12 13:17 |
Definitely not owned by Sheffield United; one suggestion is Biss Brothers. It appears the winged logo on the front has been applied to make it look more 'German', as no-one I've spoken to recognises it. It could be that the AEC badge was doctored as well. |
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◊ 2006-02-15 00:42 |
Can't put my finger on a photo at the moment but I think Black & White Motorways of Cheltenham may have applied a winged badge like this to some of their coaches. Prepared to be contradicted though... |
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◊ 2006-02-15 17:01 |
The front moulding is of a style used by Duple for the Elizabethan in the 1954 season; vehicles sold from late 1953 to mid 1955. Id say the badge is a Reliance one with the centre covered over with a red mask, and the Registration faked to look German (although german n/s is on the right! I have suggested a Biss Brothers coach TRO540 as the candiate on the basis that Biss Brothers owned a reliance elizabethan of the right vintage, their livery was like this and they were (are) based at Bishops Stortford, not so far from the Big British Studio complexes. From 1955 on the arms of the chrome pointed up, rather like the Butterfly Front on the Bedford SB. |
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◊ 2006-03-07 16:18 |
I've just looked out a picture of Biss Bros TRO540 when new at the 1955 Clacton coach rally. (Classic Bus No.54 Aug -Sept 2001, p28 top) and the differences between it and the 'Slipstream' coach are minimal, 1955 picture coach has whitewall tyres and red roof,white window surrounds, the grille above front bumper is chromed and there is DUPLE lettering above the chrome device betwen the headlights, which has a white-painted grille in the centre. The shades of red and white and the pattern of chrome mouldings is identical. |
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◊ 2007-07-29 12:21 |
AEC Reliance with Duple Elizabethan bodywork (type FS57) |
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