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1929 Chevrolet 1½-Ton [LQ] Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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◊ 2018-07-17 20:44 |
Chevrolet. |
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◊ 2018-07-17 23:22 |
Probably built in England. It is from just before the transition to the Bedford. Either 1929 or 1930. |
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◊ 2018-07-17 23:50 |
UO 9526 was Devon, Jan-March 1929. |
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◊ 2018-07-18 13:50 |
IIRC there were no model names, just some alphabetical coding consequent upon the chassis length and weight carrying capacity. When I get out of prison and have access to my books I’ll have a look. |
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◊ 2018-07-22 12:26 |
I would be interested in any information you have jfs, when you can access it. I can find no model types for these trucks. The 1930 30-cwt truck introduced was a Chevrolet 'U' from my limited notes of GM at Hendon before Bedford truck assembly. 1923-1930 Chevrolet 1-ton/25-cwt truck with components sourced from Canada assembled at Hendon, the complete vehicle had 85% local UK content. Various improvements in braking and 4-cyl to 6-cyl engines |
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◊ 2018-07-22 14:24 |
Does wiki help?? "Until 1925, General Motors (GM) assembled trucks in Britain from parts manufactured at their Canadian works. This enabled them to import vehicles into Britain under Imperial Preference, which favoured products from the British Empire as far as import duties were concerned. Such trucks were marketed as "British Chevrolet". In 1925, GM took ownership of Vauxhall Motors, production was transferred from Hendon to Luton, Vauxhall's headquarters, production commencing there in 1929. The AC and LQ models were produced at Luton from 1929 to 1931, and styled as the "Chevrolet Bedford", taking the name from the county town of Bedfordshire, where Luton is located. The AC was bodied as a light van (12 cwt), and the LQ in a wide variety of roles, including a lorry, ambulance, van and bus versions. The name "Chevrolet" was dropped, and the first "Bedford" was produced in April 1931. This vehicle, a 2-ton lorry, was virtually indistinguishable from its LQ Chevrolet predecessor, apart from detail styling of the radiator, and was available as the WHG with a 10 feet 11 inches (3,330 mm) wheelbase, or as the WLG with a longer wheelbase of 13 feet 1 inch (3,990 mm). However, the Chevrolet LQ and AC continued in production alongside the new product for a further year. In August 1931, a bus chassis was added to the range, and was designated WHB and WLB." A UK-built RHD 1929 Chevrolet LQ 1.5 ton dropside truck ![[Image: ebay234351.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/ebay234351.jpg) .. from here. |
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◊ 2018-07-22 20:11 |
I don’t think that my books will provide much on top of the Wiki article from dsl. There is also some bus stuff about, which will need to be collated from various sources, small 14 seaters were built on both Chevrolet and Bedford named chassis, by quite a variety of coach builders. There were even some 20 seaters, having a stretched chassis to which a third, trailing, axle was added. The blue truck in the thumb looks a dead ringer for the subject vehicle. -- Last edit: 2018-07-22 20:14:03 |
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◊ 2018-07-23 12:31 |
After a little searching of the Chevrolet 1-ton chassis likely to have been assembled at Hendon it appears to be as follows. There were numerous changes to the US builds during this time but these are the main types that possibly were being built in the UK and details are supported by the descriptions in the CM archives. Chevrolet D 1923-1927 1-Ton truck 120" w/base 4-cyl ohv Chevrolet LP 1927-1929 1-Ton truck 120" w/base 4-cyl ohv new 4-speed gearbox and four-wheel brakes Chevrolet LQ 1929-1931 25-cwt 6-cyl engine 4-wheel brakes disc wheels (steel) 131" w/base I still hope to find more information but three references to a 1930-31 Chevrolet 'U' 30-cwt built at Hendon are harder to confirm as a USA/Canadian model. I agree the movie vehicle is a UK built LQ 25-cwt truck Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com" Just when the 'Bedford' name was first applied as a model name and part of the Chevrolet brand I cannot determine yet, only the reasons applying following GM's purchase of Vauxhall and Vauxhall wanting to export UK built Chevrolets so possibly 1931 as here "The new models will be available from next month and they will carry the name of Bedford, the emblem on the radiator bearing this name with the characteristic Vauxhall griffin as a background." Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com" -- Last edit: 2018-07-23 12:32:15 |
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◊ 2018-07-23 14:19 |
4 cylinder? I thought that they all used the Chevrolet overhead valve six, in its various derivations. Can’t check my books yet, but one of them may be worth a look as it addresses these models. Later: I see the “stove bolt six” was a 1929 introduction. -- Last edit: 2018-07-23 14:53:58 |
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◊ 2018-07-25 11:49 |
Details found from the CM Archive plus there is more general information here Chevrolet LP and here LQ Four cylinder engine introduced in the 1-ton truck in June 1923 as here New Hendon built Chevrolet truck Four cylinder 2802cc engine valve-in-head design, three-speed gearbox. The six cylinder 3167cc Chevrolet engine replaced a four cylinder unit in the 25-cwt LP truck, built at Hendon from September 1928 until February 1929. The wheelbase was also increased by 7in due mainly to the longer engine. (Engine sizes were calculated by me from imperial dimensions so may vary somewhat.) The same six cylinder engine was then carried over on the Chevrolet LQ and the load capacity increased to 1½ tons. Hendon built something like 17 standard body types on the CKD Chevrolet imported chassis and incorporated other improvements such as 12v versus 6v electrics. From 1928 the six-cylinder engine was also used in the smaller 12-cwt van replacing the four-cylinder 10-cwt van. There is a lot of detail from the CM articles for me to take in, so if you can add to it jfs or if you find any different information I would like to know. My interest was mainly in the 100% UK- built Bedfords but these early predecessors have now got me more interested! -- Last edit: 2018-07-25 11:50:33 |
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◊ 2018-07-25 12:01 |
As soon as I am able I shall take a look at my books and post anything that’s relevant and new to the discussion, or advise if there is nothing. |
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◊ 2018-07-29 16:22 |
S W Stevens-Stratton, “British Lorries 1900 - 1992” :- “In 1931 the range was completely re-designed and produced under the name Bedford..... Their first models used the same cab as the Chevrolet....” Three models, WHG, WLG, 2 tons, short and long wheelbase, WS 30cwt. All used the Bedford 26.3 hp engine, not the Chevrolet 26.6 hp “cast iron wonder”. There is a picture underneath of a 2 ton truck from 1931 with the badge “British Bedford” on the bonnet side. |
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