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Bux_48  | Thank you .gif ":)") I believe indeed the 2000 was only sold in Italy..anyway code for 2500 1a serie is [830AB.0] |
2021-08-14 12:52 | ||
dsl  | Yes - we never got the 2000 engine. | 2021-08-14 12:51 | ||
| Bux_48 | @dsl: was the 2500/2500 IE only available motor for GB market Gamma? Thanks in advance .gif ";)") |
2021-08-14 12:44 | ||
richard davies  | WVW...S was a Chelmsford issue of October 1977. | 2020-05-10 17:42 | ||
| dsl | Reused here. | 2018-07-05 19:15 | ||
| dsl | Slight correction. All GT had vinyl roof so that's not a dating feature. But colour can - first year for both Austin and Morris was only white, red and orange with additional colours emerging from Oct 70 and later. This silver is unusual but may be original, possibly as a Mk3 choice. But safest to stick with 71 Austin. | 2017-09-30 19:31 | ||
| richard davies | Guillam also gets asked to park it in the back yard of the embassy as it's not a British built car. | 2017-04-29 14:27 | ||
Gag Halfrunt  | "Now cars, Toby. I don't think we can just rely on stealing Swiss postal vans, economic though it may be." | 2015-02-10 22:48 | ||
Weasel1984  | These particular ones were made by Citroen on its own. | 2014-05-05 21:43 | ||
zodiac  | Having studied this page http://heavycherry.com/yearsshow/index.html which lists HGV's year by year, one cannot say for certain a change took place a specific year. Some models have the wind deflector after 1980, some don't, but I've also found examples with deflectors as early as 1976. The same can be said about the chrome bar. Some models have it before 1979 (or 1980) and some models have it after 1980 as well. Q: Is wikipedia trustworthy? A: That depends on the one that has contributed, as anyone is free to add text. The idea is that any errors would be corrected asap as there're many authors. The problem is that most people interested in writing are fairly young and usually interested in recent technical matters. Thus can older stuff (with faults in it) be added that can remain for quite some time without being rectified. I do not trust wikipedia if I don't have the information written somewhere else. But I refer to the page some times as it's a major page with some great photos. I still believe this is a 1980 MY Edit: Concerning the model years. That is a rather complex question as some manufacurers are strict and some are not. My first car was a 1960 Volvo Amazon B16, I thought, as it was registered January 1st 1960, but it wasn't, I found out, when I joined the Volvo Amazon club. It was actually a 1959/60 (as referred to by Volvo at the time) as production started after the hollidays (summer of 1959) and continued to the next holliday (summer of 1960). That with a double year MY was later consider confusing for the customers and only the last year remained. I have thought about cars being registered on January 1st as nobody is working on that particular day. My conclusion is that vehicles built during the autumn, but unsold, was uniformly registered on that date to appear as new as possible. That is: Yes the Mercedes above was indeed built in 1979, but as a 1980 MY! -- Last edit: 2014-02-07 11:14:00 |
2014-02-07 10:51 | ||
| zodiac | I'm sorry, but I don't understand this. My brouchure is printed in April 1981 (WAM 670.22401.01-09/0481) and does show a HGV that looks more or less like the one above. That is apart from shiny wiper arms and handles just above the bonnet. The brouchure can be seen here http://www.trucksplanet.com/photo/mercedes/ng/ng_k735.pdf . What is the proof that these changes refered to happened in 1980? If no proof, why not go on the registration date? Usually, until early 21th Century, the new model was made from after the holidays (the previous year) as the holidays left some time for changeover when most of the work force was away. That is the production of a 1980 MY was from 08.79 until 06.80. -- Last edit: 2014-02-06 13:38:46 |
2014-02-06 13:34 | ||
| zodiac | @atom: There's one thing more that should be added concerning the bumper. Many film makers have a tight budget, and is a car selected to be bought - not rarely to be crashed within the film - it's far more likely to by a car that is cheap rather than prestine. And cheap cars are more likely to have been in a crash. Therefore it's not unlikely cars appearing on this page have been modified in some stage, and thus it might be rather difficult to determine a MY because of small features. Not long after I got my driving licence I destroyed the grill and headlight surroundings on my parents 1978 Volvo 245 DL in a crash. I was devastated, and tried the nearest car demolition plant for a spare grill. They didn't have a 1978 one, and I had to buy a 1976-77 one instead. I did fit, but the car looked somewhat peculiar. However it could still be identified as a 1978 because of the black door mirrors and, most of all, the silver paint. |
2014-02-04 08:39 | ||
antp  | Well you should not always listen to requesters if they are not justified  |
2014-02-03 16:15 | ||
| Exiv96 | And the horizontal chrome bars in the grille. Anyway, if it was registered on January 1st 1980, it couldn't have been built on the same day, so that woud make it from 1979. |
2014-02-03 03:10 | ||
| zodiac | @atom: Now I've been through my collection of brouchures and magazines from 1976 and 1977, and I cannot find any traces of a new car without the black marking. I've found one thing, though, that differ from my original thought. It seems Volvo made early 1976 models (with the new camshaft) that looked like 1975 MY with the earlier rubber on the front bumper, the silver licence plate illuminators and the earlier steering wheel. I believe they changed around the New Year 1975/76. Also I believe they didn't paint the bumpers on those cars involved in crashes in 1976 and 1977, because I saw one example of a unpainted bumper; a 242 rally car driven by PI Walfridsson. There's no problem imagine it might have been involved in a crash. There's also no problem explaining the bumpers on the police cars as they were often involved in crashes. Until further evidence I will continue to believe cars made between 1976.01 and 1977.06 (before the hollidays) had black paint when delivered, and no black paint if repaired. |
2014-02-02 18:15 | ||
| Gag Halfrunt | @gfh: A de-badged VH Commodore appears in Killer Elite, in a scene filmed in Australia but supposed to be in the UK: /vehicle_498875-Holden-Commodore-VH-1982.html |
2014-02-02 11:12 | ||
gfh  | And to some of us Down Under, almost all of the sheetmetal apart from the nose is incredibly like a VB or VC Holden Commodore. Although the Commodore was substantially re-engineered under the skin and had local engines, it was derived from this car. | 2014-02-02 05:47 | ||
Lateef  | Vertical sliding door handle + divided windshield = 1960-63 | 2014-02-02 01:07 | ||
| dsl | Because it was requested. Its fate won't cause me sleepless nights. | 2014-02-02 00:49 | ||
| antp | Why listing that? It is not rare (is it?) and the pic is already used by two other cars. |
2014-02-02 00:40 | ||
ingo  | yes, and all the late Brazilian version. |
2014-02-01 21:13 | ||
| ElSaxo | http://youtu.be/Yco1deXOzN8 These are all Passat B1 I suppose  (and hope). |
2014-02-01 21:11 | ||
| 130rapid | It's strange car mixing elements used in different years. I suppose repaired after minor (front / pile-up?) collision. |
2014-02-01 21:07 | ||
| ingo | According Wiki, *quote* Zunächst gab es, je nach verwendeten Motoren, verschiedene Scheinwerfer: Wagen mit den schwächeren Motoren wurden mit Rundscheinwerfern ausgestattet, auch abfällig „Ochsenaugen“ genannt. Die eleganteren Breitbandhalogenscheinwerfer kennzeichneten die Spitzenmodelle 300 TD Turbodiesel, die 280/280 E und die Coupés. Zu optischen Aufwertungen dieser Modelle zählten auch verchromte Gummilippen unter den Heckleuchten und verchromte Lüftungsgitter vor der Frontscheibe. Im Zuge der Modellpflege zur Serie 3 im September 1982 erhielten alle Modelle die rechteckigen Scheinwerfer, mattschwarze Lüftungsgitter und eine Zierleiste aus Zebranoholz am Armaturenbrett. *quote* only the 300 TD Turbodiesel had the chrome-trims under the taillights, not the 300 D. |
2014-02-01 21:07 | ||
| dsl | So, by elimination, 1976+ 300D as the only possibility??? | 2014-02-01 21:02 | ||
| ingo |  |
2014-02-01 21:01 | ||
| dsl | 304 and Polo added. | 2014-02-01 21:00 | ||
| 130rapid | Yes, I am. Just look at the front passenger seat on 2rd thumbrial. |
2014-02-01 20:53 | ||
| dsl | ![[Image: 49-11304vanb.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/49-11304vanb.jpg) ![[Image: 49-11304vancr16.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/49-11304vancr16.jpg) Continuity goof - the 604 in right edge (no better view possible) was a Renault 16 a few screen seconds earlier - use the red Polo as position marker. |
2014-02-01 20:47 | ||
| dsl | 2014-02-01 20:43 | |||
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2014-02-01 20:39 | ||
| cl82 | Probably Sir Alec Guiness himself was so disgusted by this appalling thing that he threatened to walk out of the production if that lemon wasn't scrapped on the spot... | 2014-02-01 19:15 | ||
| ingo | Not offending electra225, but these both, especially the 304 Commerciale are real rarities, so worth to list.  REALLY rare -- Last edit: 2014-02-01 21:45:20 (dsl) |
2014-02-01 18:32 | ||
night cub  | Are you sure about that? Doesn't seem to have the batwing headrests that were in use until 1979. It has the square headrest starting in 1980. |
2014-02-01 18:31 | ||
| ingo | Of course a Diesel, as it's a taxi (an obvious original one), noone used the -terrible thirsty- 280 E (or the worse thirsty 250) as a taxi. So 280 E is wrong here. I just want to point out, that "1976 240 D" is wrong, because it isn't one. "1980 300 D" would rather fit. |
2014-02-01 18:25 | ||
| dsl | Diesel soundtrack. | 2014-02-01 18:22 | ||
| ingo | Is "1976 240 D" really correct?  AFAIK back in the first years only the 280 E had the chrome under the taillights! |
2014-02-01 18:16 | ||
| dsl | If you want. No other view. I thought about adding the 304 van and looked for a better shot of the 604 in right edge, but never thought of the Polo. | 2014-02-01 17:21 | ||
| electra225 | Nice red '77 VW Polo L. Can I add it ? | 2014-02-01 17:03 | ||
| Weasel1984 | That's right - since 1980 MY both models were available in Italy. I read once, that the s1 was offered till 1982. (I prefer face of the s1.  ) |
2014-02-01 16:35 | ||
| Weasel1984 | The rear bumper is still short. There is also no black finition on the rear wall, which was introduced in the late summer 1981 for the 1982 MY. 1978 car in similar color. |
2014-02-01 16:34 | ||
| electra225 | Cute explanation. |
2014-02-01 16:26 | ||
| electra225 | This is a 1982 only car for the new bumpers whose edges are extended till the wheels arches, and even the colour "Pistaziengrün" is pure '82. The trim is "Berlina". | 2014-02-01 16:24 | ||
| electra225 | The series II arrived in Italy in April 1980. Some series I were still available since the car was a real flop, but I can't say the availability lastel until 1982. It was actually deleted months before the launch of the Thema, because they had plenty of unsold series IIs. |
2014-02-01 16:11 | ||
| dsl | Agreed about C-pillar script, also no side trim. But wheels look probably GT and later 71+ GT were the only ADO16 to have vinyl roof. I don't think this silver was a factory colour, so my best guess is a repaint after which the side elements were not refitted. | 2014-02-01 12:34 | ||
| dsl | The film date nearly caught me too - my first thought was a 90. A van crosses foreground between the two pictures, so no better side view possible. | 2014-02-01 12:29 | ||
| walter | I'm noticing now that it hasn't got quattro wheels (Ronal), so it's probably a front wheel drive 5S (5-cylinder) version with the (aftermarket?) four headlights. | 2014-02-01 11:09 | ||
| walter | Very cute. It's almost impossible to find one of these nowadays, too. | 2014-02-01 11:00 | ||
| walter | The 80 quattro went on sale at the end of 1982 ('83 MY). I didn't notice the filming period of this episode, it would have been too early for this model actually... |
2014-02-01 10:59 | ||
| electra225 | 26M for the quad head lights. | 2014-02-01 06:55 |
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