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dsl  | White was added in 1967. Not sure who did the hardtop - the best known was Barton![[Image: sparks0299teamlotusminimokeand47gtsilverstone1968b.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/sparks0299teamlotusminimokeand47gtsilverstone1968b.jpg) but this is not their usual style. |
2022-02-10 22:30 | ||
130rapid  | 1966+ signal/position lights. | 2016-12-31 16:55 | ||
DidierF  | Et je vais, contre ma conviction (ce qui est très mal) mais pour complaire à ce qui a été fait et dit, l'appeler non pas "Innocenti Lambretta FD", mais "Lambretta 125 FD". | 2015-08-26 11:29 | ||
| DidierF | Eh bien, mon p'tit Didier, ton impression était la bonne ! Maintenant que tu es devenu fort savant en tricycles Innocenti (et que tu le resteras pendant au moins deux jours, avant de devoir tout réapprendre), tu peux affirmer haut et fort que c'est bien un FD. On va considérer qu'il est de la fournée 1953 par défaut. |
2015-08-26 11:27 | ||
mike962  | old HYSTER for sure !! | 2014-10-16 23:10 | ||
zodiac  | @rpcm: I wasn't aware of any differences in gearshift knobs, as all (as far as I know) early manual W 108/ W 111 (i.e. 250 SE/C) sold in Sweden has flour mounted gear lever, and for obvious reasons Swedish cars are the ones I know best. (Before Sweden entered the EU, all cars sold here had to be 'typed', which was a very bureaucratic, and very costly, business making the manufacturers 'type' as few versions as possible.) But how do you know the above car has manual transmission? The lady seems far too relaxed to consider any gear changes. Was the automatic knob different as well? Or was it changed from column gear shift to flour mounted ones at any time? It took me some time to reply as I've tried to pin down changes in the interior that might be visible. One change, that should have been interesting, is that the chrome strip that divide the dash board disappeared in Sept 1967, just mounths before introducing the /8 series, and was replaced with a plastic strip that had the same colour as the interior. Unfortunatelly that doesn't help much in this case as the interior has the same colour as the chrome strip would have looked like. What might (just) be a recognizable feature is the summer ventilation (GER: Sommerbelüftung) https://www.flickr.com/photos/28413589@N04/8118427645 (which is the bigger black ventilation nozzle to the left of the steering wheel). It replaced the older chrome ones in Oct 1966 as of the introduction of the 1967 MY. At least I can see it, as it stands out considerable more than the older ones. What made me concerned is that so many W 108 is marked 1966+, when in the reality the problems with the M 108 (250 S) and M 129 (250 SE) engines, with very very steep oil consummation causing many engines to blow up, caused bad publicity and consequently bad reputation, which made them disappearing rather quickly. Mercedes did come up with a solution, but that wasn't until January 1967, and the reputation wasn't fully restored until the introduction of the /8 series. Edit: Corrections -- Last edit: 2014-10-14 18:06:47 |
2014-10-14 17:06 | ||
rpcm  | Actually the steering wheel horn ring seemed to me to be more likely of the type used on the 250 as also did the gearshift knob, showed on the left (the right being the 280 one). ![[Image: 250sw108.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1941/250sw108.jpg) ![[Image: 280sw108.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1941/280sw108.jpg) As you must know, the politics of Mercedes concerning the possibilities of choice of colours/accessories allows a huge variety of combinations so that it's not easy to find two 100% identical cars; I don't really know what colours of dashboards were available for the French market, but the majority of W108 250 S/SE I've seen have dark dashboards even with these more clear interior colours. -- Last edit: 2014-10-13 00:46:14 |
2014-10-12 22:25 | ||
| zodiac | @rpcm: It would be most satisfying if you could say what "visible details" makes you say this is a (1965) 1966-67 model and not a later one. In an earlier entry /vehicle.php?id=736434 you stated that you had "read somewhere" that changes of the horn ring and outside rear view mirrors occured in 1963, without stating where you read it. I don't know if you have any deeper knowledge in Mercedes (if so, what?) as I've corrected you on several entries here on imcdb, but if you have PLEASE STATE THE SOURCE and FEATURES, to make this site as plausible as possible. What makes me worry is that several magazines are using imcdb as a source for facts. Recently I read in a Swedish magazine that the Volvo 240-range has contributed in a little bit more than 1.000 films (I've forgotten the exact number, but it was very specific), which happened to be the number on this page, not understanding this is an ongoing project. About this particular car: The main picture, and in particular the first thumb, shows what appears to be creme MB-Tex or leather combined with a black, or very dark, instrument panel. Early W 108 models had nine different colours on the instrument panel: Black, Anthracite grey, Brown, Dark brown, Middle grey, Blue, Maroon, Reddish brown and Sand. From 1968 only three remained: Black, Dark blue and Dark brown. That made it easy to combine colours on the upholstery with the instrument panel on the early models, but less so on later models. (Source: MBIG Handbuch W 108/109) At the moment, I don't know why the instrument panels became dark coloured on later models, but I suspect it has something to do with safety as brighter colours might reflect on to the wind screen while driving at night. Pictures of earlier combinations might be shown here, although in black and white Link to "www.autoevolution.com" (at the bottom). For some reason it seems difficult to find accurate pictures as most cars of today is repainted or otherwise altered. If early, the car above should have had a bright instrument panel, possibly sand. It seems it doesn't, and because of that I rather believe this is a later car. Conclusion: This is likely a 1968+ 280 S or SE rather than (1965) 1966-67 250 S/SE or 300 SE (if not specially ordered, which was possible but very expensive). -- Last edit: 2014-10-12 20:43:50 |
2014-10-12 20:15 | ||
| sixcyl | As tractor version, it's a T 9MC Vosges , and with this small grill it's a the late version 1969+ of the Vosges with the Auteuil Cabine. -- Last edit: 2014-10-11 19:09:25 |
2014-10-11 19:00 | ||
| dsl | That's the first time I've ever been called one of those. I hope it's a nice word. 422 UKJ was mid-62 so Minx S3c, which matches the simpler S3c bumpers. |
2014-10-11 15:30 | ||
| DidierF | Ah, j'avais oublié ça aussi :![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-11-15h05m42s9.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-11-15h05m42s9.jpg) ![[*]](/res/star.png){kind=small} 002458The hero is having lessons for truck driving. Don't you think it looks like the inside of a Saviem SG-2? Edit: more a Saviem SB2. What would you think? -- Last edit: 2014-10-12 01:00:57 |
2014-10-11 15:08 | ||
| DidierF | The plate says [422UKJ]. | 2014-10-11 14:56 | ||
| DidierF | Bon, alors, quoi ?!![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-11-14h35m32s55.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-11-14h35m32s55.jpg) Empolini, Lambro, Piaggio, Moto Guzzi ? Car ce doit être un italien, n'est-ce pas ? Où trouver des modèles de tricycles de cet acabit, sur le net ? I have the impression it's a rather early Innocenti Lambretta Lambro FD. |
2014-10-11 14:53 | ||
| DidierF | We won't have better, DynaMike, I'm sorry. | 2014-10-11 14:23 | ||
DynaMike  | Ondine, Gordini et Export disposaient de ce pourtour chromé. L'Ondine avait aussi une tybe protecteur au-dessous de la plaque minéralogique, donc celle-ci n'est pas une Ondine. Mais la peinture métalisée et la plaque datant de 1964 en font plutôt une Export .gif ";)") Voir http://www.dauphinomaniac.org/ (millésimes). |
2014-10-11 13:10 | ||
| DynaMike | A pity we cannot see the hubcap very clearly, but I think it's the new version (1966+). In model year 1965 there was no 21 yet, only a 19. And later the 19 was still available, only visible difference being the badge on the boot lid. I'd propose to change this to 1966 DS 19 Pallas, maybe a better picture of the front wheel would show it to be a 1965 model, though. |
2014-10-11 13:04 | ||
| mike962 | HYSTER http://www.oilyhands.co.uk/images/Hyster-duncan.jpg |
2014-10-11 12:39 | ||
| DidierF | ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h54m22s243.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h54m22s243.jpg) |
2014-10-11 11:37 | ||
| DidierF | ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h53m06s0.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h53m06s0.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h53m56s6.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h53m56s6.jpg) |
2014-10-11 11:37 | ||
| DidierF | Odd —too old, it seems— registration. According to fr.wikipedia: Unic, Unic Vosges is a 1960 creation. ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h35m35s180.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h35m35s180.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h36m08s218.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h36m08s218.jpg) (A fast driving lesson.) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h37m12s195.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h37m12s195.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h39m21s116.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h39m21s116.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h40m29s170.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h40m29s170.jpg) The Fruehauf trailer: ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h40m51s88.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h40m51s88.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h41m09s234.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h41m09s234.jpg) On the road again: ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h41m54s204.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h41m54s204.jpg) "Vosges 9MC", c'est écrit dessus : ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h58m01s18.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h58m01s18.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h59m38s98.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h59m38s98.jpg) Quelle gueule il a ! Une douce Mobylette orange sur cette photo : ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h27m32s188.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h27m32s188.jpg) La mâle chanson du travail… ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h29m22s12.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h29m22s12.jpg) Fin de parcours : ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h30m28s162.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h30m28s162.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h31m28s2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-23h31m28s2.jpg) -- Last edit: 2014-10-11 11:33:41 |
2014-10-11 11:33 | ||
| DidierF | ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h50m00s41.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h50m00s41.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h50m52s49.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h50m52s49.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h51m30s179.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h51m30s179.jpg) And the two in the background: ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h52m23s92.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h52m23s92.jpg) So it would be brand new Izoard T340 A V8, with a Fiat cabin, right? |
2014-10-11 11:17 | ||
| DidierF | La star du début du film :![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h08m04s143.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h08m04s143.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h09m07s75.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h09m07s75.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h09m33s250.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h09m33s250.jpg) L'instructeur est, si je ne m'abuse, Michel Fortin, celui qui crie "Berthier n'a rien, Berthier n'a rien !" après l'accident du car, dans l'immense petit Coup de tête. ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h16m03s61.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h16m03s61.jpg) Et une jolie petite dernière, pour la route : ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h16m32s82.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h16m32s82.jpg) -- Last edit: 2014-10-18 22:30:36 |
2014-10-11 11:10 | ||
| DidierF | A whole 58 seconds for the Mercedes —actually, for the woman. Two other angles different from the two already seen: ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-11-10h58m08s37.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-11-10h58m08s37.jpg) ![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-11-10h58m40s136.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-11-10h58m40s136.jpg) And no notable modification of the situation hands/wheel, so… Carrramba ! Encorrre rrraté ! |
2014-10-11 11:01 | ||
| DidierF | Une autre R10, ignorée d'un Solex hautain et dédaigneux.![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h21m28s232.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h21m28s232.jpg) |
2014-10-11 10:49 | ||
| DidierF | Allez, une petite photo pour illustrer ton propos, et pas la même que celle du lien (je ne poste jamais deux fois la même photo… Peut-être ai-je tort, d'ailleurs).![[Image: vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h27m36s134.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/vlcsnap-2014-10-10-22h27m36s134.jpg) Main'nant, allons chercher un angle nouveau pour la Mercedes et la requête de rpcm. |
2014-10-11 10:47 | ||
| DidierF | Maaa, sixcyl, ce pourtour chromé, ce n'est pas un critère pour Ondine, ça ? | 2014-10-11 10:42 | ||
Raji  | Yes i think | 2014-10-11 10:34 | ||
Marco99  | Unic T 340 A V8 | 2014-10-11 10:28 | ||
| sixcyl | Sympa le parc de PL des Vins Noé .gif ":)") |
2014-10-11 09:57 | ||
| sixcyl | La Renault bien sûr  |
2014-10-11 09:52 | ||
| sixcyl | Dauphine Gordini 1961+ reconnaissable au pourtour chromé sur le joint de parebrise. | 2014-10-11 09:49 | ||
| sixcyl | Sport 1954-57, mais dépouillée de ses barrettes chromées sur la calandre d'après la photo /vehicle_747308-Peugeot-204-1969.html -- Last edit: 2014-10-11 09:46:30 |
2014-10-11 09:45 | ||
| sixcyl | Modèle 1969+ avec le jonc de caoutchouc sur les pare-chocs. | 2014-10-11 09:38 | ||
| sixcyl | C'est la dernière version 17B de 1964-65 reconnaissable à son écusson sur le capot et le nouveau cadre chromé des phares. | 2014-10-11 09:35 | ||
| sixcyl | Une splendide 21 Pallas de 1965-67  |
2014-10-11 09:29 | ||
rjluna2  | Made for France due to these round red retroreflectors besides these taillights. | 2014-10-11 02:24 | ||
| rjluna2 | @Edit: Ohh.. ![[:shy]](https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/images/smileys/shy.gif "[:shy]") /vehicle_747302-Austin-Mini-Moke-1965.html |
2014-10-11 02:21 | ||
| rjluna2 | What's that boxy van here  |
2014-10-11 02:20 | ||
| dsl | I entered Austin as more common in F. Interesting that this 850 has opening rear windows and wheel trim rings which in UK were 1000 only - maybe an export-only tweak. | 2014-10-11 02:15 | ||
sthor  | 1965 | 2014-10-11 02:13 | ||
| rpcm | It's because the brand wasn't chosen. You chose Austin and actually I think it was the more common. | 2014-10-11 02:12 | ||
| rpcm | De nada For instance, another angle of the steering wheel to see the shape of the horn ring would help. |
2014-10-11 02:06 | ||
| dsl | 64+ export grille. | 2014-10-11 02:05 | ||
| rpcm | 1965MY + | 2014-10-11 02:04 | ||
| DidierF | (No other pic for this one.) | 2014-10-11 02:02 | ||
| DidierF | Oh ben alors, quelle erreur d'appréciation de ma part ! Obrigado ! |
2014-10-11 02:01 | ||
| rpcm | It's a Mercedes W108 and - by what is possible to understand of the visible details - I think it's a 1966+ 250 S/SE or the less probable 300 SE. | 2014-10-11 02:00 | ||
| DidierF | Some reserve pics later, maybe. I'm tired. Good night. | 2014-10-11 01:56 | ||
| DidierF | (Rhâ zut, pourquoi ça donne "Series III" ?) Well, rpcm, I can't read whether Austin or Morris. |
2014-10-11 01:55 | ||
| DidierF | I was wondering. All right I'll take it. | 2014-10-11 01:44 |
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