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dhill_cb7  | To be exact a 1964 model by the bed/badge placement. |
2020-06-25 22:49 | ||
police car fan  | [2367] | 2014-07-03 16:49 | ||
mike962  | yes will just have to leave it unknown until someone can get more grabs specially more sideways btw DSL I think the Forumula Vee shot can go to comments , even in Germany it's very obscure that you find next to nothing and there were about 8-10 manufacturers and many self build ones so even if you had closeup it would be really really hard to ID ... |
2014-01-29 18:27 | ||
dsl  | Thumb has no sign of a camera fitted to the back of any of the cars - in 1960s it would have been big enough to be visible especially for cinema-quality filming (and would have been a disadvantage for a tiddler trying to race competitively), so I think main has to be staged for filming. The only way I can think of for filming genuine race cars would be some laps behind a pace car with camera, but I doubt if they did that in those days. So I don't think race results will provide a definite answer here. | 2014-01-29 18:22 | ||
| mike962 | well I think it's 28 or 29 which happes to the 66 race results both were Cooper T76 http://www.formula2.net/F366_E70.htm while possible 26 was Brabham BT15 wish I had a more sideways shot of it ![[:kiki]](https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/images/smileys/kiki.gif "[:kiki]") of course it could be all staged -- Last edit: 2014-01-29 18:10:12 |
2014-01-29 18:09 | ||
| dsl | OK - done. | 2014-01-29 11:44 | ||
| mike962 | DSL I would put this in the comments !! Formula Vee but you can't see any race numbers and they are too far away to try direct cross reference based on body shape -- Last edit: 2014-01-29 11:21:08 |
2014-01-29 11:20 | ||
| mike962 | it could be a Cooper T65 which was the last car build for Formula Junior before being repalced by F3 but couldn't find a shot from the rear this is the closest one I could find Link to "image.europeancarweb.com" |
2014-01-29 11:19 | ||
| mike962 | ![[Image: f1cc.9015.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is21/f1cc.9015.jpg) it's same car IMO and rear suspensions have a Cooper look too -- Last edit: 2014-01-29 11:16:41 |
2014-01-29 11:15 | ||
| mike962 | yes the green one and it''s the close up are specially filmed with different cars, for a start the other car in thumbnail is dark BLUE so not even Green !!!! well I am sure I see a 9 and its either 9 or 19 and it's really typical Lotus livery of that era for 1965 results 9 and 19 where Brabham BT 115 and 16 and no 29 the red car was a Cooper T59 but with that long suspension arm it's not a a T59 http://www.formula2.net/F365_E32.htm -- Last edit: 2014-01-29 11:13:54 |
2014-01-29 11:13 | ||
| dsl | Which car are we talking about - I assume the green one? How do you get #19 from the main or any other picture?? Note also the steering wheel in thumbs 2&3 looks like a Cooper logo. But given the mix of race and staged footage my hunch is to disregard the thumbs completely for ID'ing the green in main, and I'll agree yellow stripe and wheels on green was a particular Lotus livery. Also the red Cooper in main has the T72 rear suspension bar not shown on the T59 #39 film car. So a confusing mix, and you could be right but I'm not quite convinced yet. Do 64 or 65 Avus races give any other possibilities?? | 2014-01-29 03:09 | ||
| dsl | See thumbs 2 and 3 at /vehicle.php?id=224753 for the staged footage with the red Cooper, which appear to show a Cooper logo on the steering wheel of the non-red car which I assume is this one?? | 2014-01-29 03:07 | ||
| dsl | OK - I'm convinced - changed. | 2014-01-29 02:52 | ||
| mike962 |  DSLthiss was MIS ID it's Cooper, but earlier T59 , the T-59 was an earlier Formula Junior car Link to "files.conceptcarz.com" notice the rear suspensions and the front suspension cover holes , and the engine hood !! here the T72 by comparison see that long arm at the rear Link to "cdn.shopify.com" ![[Image: 196220dunboyne20ireland_ken20tyrrell2020john20love.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/196220dunboyne20ireland_ken20tyrrell2020john20love.jpg) Link to "www.formulajunior.com" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_T59 -- Last edit: 2014-01-29 02:27:45 |
2014-01-29 02:21 | ||
| mike962 | I think it's solved http://www.formula2.net/F366_E70.htm NO 19 listed as Lotus 34 but IMO a small type error, meant as Lotus 35 , the 34 was an Indycar -- Last edit: 2014-01-29 02:05:48 |
2014-01-29 02:00 | ||
| mike962 | DSL this is Brabham BT18 in the end, what caused the confusion is MIS ID of race number, the car in front is no 2 not no 5 -- Last edit: 2014-01-28 22:24:00 |
2014-01-28 22:18 | ||
| mike962 | No 17 in the 66 race it was a Brabham BT10 |
2014-01-27 16:04 | ||
| mike962 | well I rechecked everything, this must be the 66 race footage no 6 was a Brabham BT18 - Ford simply in 1965 there was NO no 6 car on the grid -- Last edit: 2014-01-27 16:02:50 |
2014-01-27 16:02 | ||
DidierF  | Och, Sandie, if I can be the one, I'll do it as soon as possible. (The films I'm "working" on now, are such bores.) |
2013-10-11 20:51 | ||
| Sandie | Another film yet to have a full entry at IMCDB. |
2013-10-11 20:41 | ||
| DidierF | (And Tom Courtenay of Otley's fame in the same scene! Waouh! Maybe not capturing pics, but watching the movie I have to!) | 2013-10-11 20:35 | ||
| puterboy1 | Unless if it were stock footage of an actual race, I can agree on it. | 2013-10-11 20:32 | ||
| DidierF | Mmmh if it's for the same result I had with /movie.php?id=73685 ? Nein, danke sehr. I did a terrible job there. |
2013-10-11 20:29 | ||
| mike962 | and maybe cap the race scenes again while you're at it .gif ":)") -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 20:24:02 |
2013-10-11 20:23 | ||
| DidierF | Oh, fine! With Laurence Harvey, "Room at the top"! Maybe should I see this movie. |
2013-10-11 20:22 | ||
| mike962 | it's here and seems MIS ID !! /vehicle.php?id=224752 and this too scene shot for movie with this no 39 /vehicle_224756.html -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 20:18:49 |
2013-10-11 20:17 | ||
| DidierF | Yes, this footage (your last pic, /vehicle_224752-Cooper-T72-1966.html ) seems to be made for the movie. | 2013-10-11 20:17 | ||
| mike962 | it looks like here we have a mix of real footage with filmed one in the main pic red car has white stripes and is from real race, this is specilly filmed![[Image: untitled.339.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/untitled.339.jpg) -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 20:13:10 |
2013-10-11 20:12 | ||
| DidierF | I'm comparing the n°24s, the one of 65 and the one of 66. In 65, it was a brand new Merlyn Mk9 which sported the n°24, with inboard suspensions. This is not the case here for this n°24. So, it should be the one of 66. The Merlyn Mk9 at its teething year, 1965: ![[Image: merlynmk9.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/17160/merlynmk9.jpg) -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 20:14:44 |
2013-10-11 20:12 | ||
| mike962 | Found this on the youtube there was NO no 39 in 65 or 66 race but accrding to this clip on youtube it was speacily filmed for the movie see this Didier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFmIQ_LkoRQ -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 20:10:03 |
2013-10-11 20:09 | ||
| mike962 | yes but doesn't mean that it was an "up to date" model perhaps older Merlyn -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 20:08:19 |
2013-10-11 20:08 | ||
| DidierF | (There was one, Paul Deetens on Brabham ; he didn't arrive but took the departure, didn't he?) |
2013-10-11 20:05 | ||
| DidierF | I'm watching this one, the n°24, /vehicle_224755.html which would be a Merlyn in 65 or a Cooper in 66. But Merlyns had inboard suspensions in 65, so this must be a Cooper of 66. Hence, we would have footage of the 66 race. |
2013-10-11 20:03 | ||
| mike962 | so far you think its 65 or 66 ? in 66 there was no 5 like you ID on a car -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:54:34 |
2013-10-11 19:54 | ||
| mike962 | this may be footage specially filmed for movie I can only see the 2 on the front but not the 2nd figure -- Last edit: 2014-01-29 18:07:43 |
2013-10-11 19:51 | ||
| DidierF | Oh, I hadn't read... Va pour une Brabham BT16, alors. |
2013-10-11 19:48 | ||
| DidierF | We're missing the results for 1966. I learn that Kurt Ahrens Jr. won in 66, with a Brabham BT18. | 2013-10-11 19:47 | ||
| mike962 | EDIT surprise surprise, in 1966 no 9 was also a Brabham BT16 http://www.formula2.net/F366_E70.htm this SOLVED then Brabham BT 16 -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:41:23 |
2013-10-11 19:41 | ||
| mike962 | for rigth side yes for the left side only 3 not quite sure about the others here another test , you agree this is Brabham BT 16 , the race winner like list suggest or you have doubts about being BT16 ?? /vehicle.php?id=224751 -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:37:07 |
2013-10-11 19:36 | ||
| mike962 | in 65 no 9 was the race winner Brabham BT16 http://www.formula2.net/F365_E32.htm |
2013-10-11 19:34 | ||
| DidierF | Besides, watching the other pics, I change my mind. These cars could well be F3, all right. Do you read the same numbers as I do, for the two lines, 6 / 25 / 5 then 17 / 1x / 3 ? |
2013-10-11 19:30 | ||
| mike962 | SO all type of cars raced in 65 F3 race Brabham BT15 Brabham BT10 Brabham BT9 Alpine A270 - Renault Cooper T76 - BMC Cooper T59 - Ford/Holbay Merlyn Mk 9 - Ford AU-Bode - DKW Graf - Simca (Franz Graf - self build car seems) Aumont - Panhard Lotus 20 - Ford Lotus 31 Lotus 34 - Ford Lova - DKW -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:44:35 |
2013-10-11 19:29 | ||
| mike962 | in 67 no 25 DNA !! so I think its confirmed fully Didier you need to rely on the 65 race results ! in 64 there is NO no 25 listed http://www.formula2.net/F364_E27.htm -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:25:02 |
2013-10-11 19:22 | ||
| mike962 | in 66 results http://www.formula2.net/F366_E70.htm 25 - Brabham BT15 5 - Brabham BT15 (BUT DNA - did not arrive) so means this footage is from the 65 race !!! -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:21:54 |
2013-10-11 19:21 | ||
| mike962 | if 3 is a Cooper according to 65 results http://www.formula2.net/F365_E32.htm 25 - Brabham BT15 5- Cooper T76 does it fit or it could be different year ? |
2013-10-11 19:20 | ||
| DidierF | Yes, it should be easy. This is the first line : 6, 25, 5 Second line : 17, 1x, 3. This #3 looks like a Cooper. -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:17:55 |
2013-10-11 19:14 | ||
| mike962 | once the year is determined for sure ID this cars based on race results should be quite easy |
2013-10-11 18:41 | ||
| DidierF | All right. So it's the Avus for sure. I'll check the '64 F2 race (René Bonnet! Basis of the Matra team!) and then try to re-watch the pics thinking of the cars as F3. | 2013-10-11 18:30 | ||
| mike962 | even noted on Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS |
2013-10-11 17:46 | ||
| mike962 | there was a F2 race in 64 http://www.formula2.net/F264_11.htm no 6 Brabham BT10 no 3 DNA (did not arrive) so IMO it was from F3 race !! and this track IS Avus for sure -- Last edit: 2013-10-11 17:45:25 |
2013-10-11 17:43 |
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