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RedBoy9199  | 1998+ | 2023-01-29 21:52 | ||
dhill_cb7  | Cartell.ie says: Make & Model MERCEDES BENZ E200 Description Engine Capacity 1998 |
2023-01-29 19:53 | ||
dsl  | Digging a bit deeper, as overall context it seems that since late 40s Ireland had strong tariff protection designed to encourage local assembly and penalise FBU imports, although there were also mutual tariff reduction agreements with UK. When Ireland joined EEC, it negotiated a 10 year dispensation to maintain these tariffs to protect its industry until 84, after which it could not offer any protection, so the industry collapsed as its small-scale couldn't compete on cost against bigger production sites elsewhere in Europe. So it was cheaper for Ford, for instance, to stop making Sierras in Cork and bring them in from UK or Genk. The theme of keeping things going in Ireland with stuff which was obsolete elsewhere seems strong - R4, Fiat 127/128 as mentioned, also the Peugeot 404 until 1979 - apparently the last place globally to make saloons apart from Nigeria, Chrysler Hunters 76-79 after UK production ended. And within those boundaries, Ireland did export some of its old stuff in late 70s back into UK (eg those Hunters) and Europe (R4s again, presumably the 404s). Plus apparently supplying large numbers of late 70s Escorts to UK (maybe in a similar scenario to Senneffe supplying BL stuff to UK to cover lengthy production breaks during strikes??). Daihatsu - both the book and the TV report actually end up with the same basic story that the boom was 79-81, reaching 1980 peak of 1640; 1982 figure was 17, 1983 - 6 and 1984 - 7. |
2021-01-03 01:23 | ||
Bux_48  | Thank you! They kept 128s until the end of Italian production (September 1983). Interesting selection .gif ";)") EDIT: Didn't imagine that we got some Irish built R4..maybe there was a surplus of production in Ireland? -- Last edit: 2021-01-03 00:35:02 |
2021-01-03 00:06 | ||
| Sandie | Link to "www.rte.ie" From 4:45 on. Seems to suggest that most named above had stopped before 1984 rather than there being an overnight stop in 1984, this is from February 1984 and specifically refers to Ford stopping imminently and says only Renault and Mazda remained. Interestingly they say that a lot of the R4s built in Wexford were exported to places such as Spain and Italy. It seems to imply that Ireland probably received imports as well as local builds with the Irish plants being a means to persuade the government to allow their products to be sold? As well as Ford and Renault, Daihatsu are mentioned specifically and only built cars from 1979-81. Think as a contemporary source it's probably more accurate than the book? -- Last edit: 2021-01-03 00:27:47 |
2021-01-03 00:05 | ||
| dsl | @Bux-48 - dug out a different book source - not as good, but says about 1983 Fiat was 127 and 128, and Renault was just 4 and 4 Light Van; in 1976 Fiat had been again just 127 and 128, but Renault was 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 16. | 2021-01-02 23:48 | ||
| dsl | Yup - that's my book. It's fascinating ... |
2021-01-02 23:43 | ||
Sunbar  | "McCairns Motors, assemblers and distributors of Bedfords in the Irish Free State (later the Republic of Ireland) for over forty years, " http://www.nationaltransportmuseum.org/commercial.html National Transport Museum of Ireland. "Vauxhall cars and Bedford commercials were assembled in Santry by McCairn's Motors." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry_in_Ireland "Tariff systems weren't compatible with the Common Market that Ireland joined in 1973 and it was agreed to end the CKD system by 1984" Review of the book, “Motor Assembly in Ireland” by Bob Montgomery Link to "www.completecar.ie" Bedfords assembled perhaps until the late 1970s mid-1980s???? |
2021-01-02 23:05 | ||
| Bux_48 | [176] | 2021-01-02 22:50 | ||
| Bux_48 | Very interesting. Thank you really for your response! .gif ":)") |
2021-01-02 22:44 | ||
| dsl | Sorry - can't tell you as my book does't give consistent info. Fiat build started about 1948 and has mentions from 1950s onwards for 500C, 600, early round-boot 1100; 1960s - 600R (?), 850, 1100R, 124; 1970s - 127, 128 and maybe 132. Text says there were also FBUs (Fully Built Up) imports alongside local build which was usually basic versions with limited spec/colour choice only. FBUs were mid and high spec versions. Production reached 12715 in 1977, falling to 4293 in 1984 when it all stopped. Seems this was actually a project owned and run from Fiat HQ in Turin, which was unusual for Ireland as most other assembly arrangements were franchise contracts with local companies. There was also a separate franchise to build Polski 125s 1976-81, total 612 cars made. No obvious references found for Ladas or Yugos. Renault started 1935-39 with a handful of unknown types, then resumed about 1955. Models mentioned are 750 (4CV), Dauphine and 4, but I guess there were several more (8?, 5?, 16?, 9?, 11?, 18?) as they had 10% of local market at one stage - peak was 1979 with 9639 units, falling to 4824 in 1984 final year. Irish car story is fascinating mix of full enterprises and all sorts of penny number weirdoes - TVR, Marcos and Mini Marcos, Berkeley, Borgward, Wartburg, DKW, Messerschmitt, Heinkel, Panhard, Skoda, Armstrong-Siddeley, lots of US makes (including even some 1930s Grahams and Hupmobiles) etc in a long list. |
2021-01-02 22:36 | ||
| Bux_48 | @dsl may I ask you what models did Fiat and Renault build in Ireland in the 80s? Thanks in advance |
2021-01-02 21:44 | ||
| dsl | Whatever the 84 regime change was, it was a biggie. Everything stopped abruptly - all the remaining big names - Ford, Renault, Mazda, Fiat, Nissan, Chrysler, Austin-Rover, Toyota - pulled the plug together along with tiddlers such as Daihatsu, after which there was nothing at all for cars. There may have been a smaller regime change in 77/78/79 behind the disappearance of a few names at that point, such as VW, Mercedes, Peugeot and Vauxhall. Unfortunately no useful info on what may or may not have happened for commercials, which was the starting point of this ramble through the heather. |
2021-01-02 20:50 | ||
| Gag Halfrunt | The Single Market came into effect in 1993. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Single_Market#History Perhaps Ireland reduced import duty in 1984. |
2021-01-02 20:16 | ||
| dsl | Ooops - I probably mean the Single Market regime in 84; all Irish car builds stopped in 84. | 2020-12-31 19:24 | ||
| Gag Halfrunt | Ireland joined in 1973, same as the UK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_enlargement_of_the_European_Communities |
2020-12-31 18:36 | ||
| dsl | Just to make life interesting, it could - in theory at least - be a local build if earlier than 1984 when Ireland joined EU and local car/truck assembly stopped. Bedford dates/models unknown, but very active in 60s/early 70s; Vauxhall builds seem to have stopped in 79 when GM reorganised local arrangements and re-introduced Opel for cars. | 2020-12-31 17:12 | ||
| Sunbar | TK 1000 [KE] from 1974 to 1986, 9.84 Ton 4x2 also I believe available as low-load height 6 wheeler for brewers dray use.![[Image: tkkb-ke.1.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/558/tkkb-ke.1.jpg) edit: TK KB-KE brochure cover added. Dodgy number plate not applicable to TL? -- Last edit: 2020-12-31 22:30:55 |
2020-12-31 14:25 | ||
| Sandie | Definitely a genuine Guinness truck? Seems a bit old for that and not sure it should be in extra info for a movie fake... -- Last edit: 2020-12-31 01:12:52 |
2020-12-31 01:09 | ||
| dsl | DZG883 Bedford KE, 1983 Body: Open lorry & container Engine CC: 0 Fuel: Diesel Colour: Blue What does KE mean?? |
2020-12-31 01:05 | ||
jpts  | This scene was the reenactment of the murder of crime reporter, Veronica Guerin who was shot by Irish hitmen, Paul "Hippo" Ward and Patrick "Dutchy" Holland as she was sitting in her Opel Calibra at red light on the Naas Dual Carriageway near Newlands Cross, Dublin on the morning of the 26th June 1996. During the Garda Investigation into the murder, it was suspected that the murder was committed by gang members, Ward, Brian Meehan, Charles Bowden, Kieran "Muscles" Concannon and Peter Mitchell. The investigation revealed that the day before the murder on the 25th June 1996, the gang had met at their hideout on the Greenmount Industrial Estate in Harold's Cross, 4km south of Dublin where the gang's distributor and ammunition quartermaster, Bowden supplied Ward, Meehan and Mitchell with the murder weapon, a Colt Python Revolver loaded with .357 Magnum Semiwadcutter ammunition. A hour after the murder, Bowden met with Meehan, Ward and Mitchell in Moore Street where they discussed the disposal of the weapon. Bowen, Ward, Meehan and Mitchell were arrested and charged for the murder, in 1997, Bowden testified that he gave the gun to Holland who was named as the killer. In his statement, Bowen had named John "The Coach" Traynor as the one who tipped the killers off where Veronica Gruen was and was believed that he gave the order to kill Gruen. -- Last edit: 2022-12-23 14:29:41 |
2020-03-17 11:46 | ||
| dsl | Confirmed as 1973, before April 74 larger arch flares. Some plate site info now found for 1111 ZL Rolls Royce Body Type Hearse Fuel Petrol Engine Size 6750cc Colour Black .. but no date given. |
2019-05-11 14:01 | ||
| AnimatronixX | Coachwork by George Duffy of Dundalk, Ireland. Also seen here: /vehicle.php?id=849504 @dsl: Do we make it a 73 or a 74 now? Please adjust - thanks! |
2019-05-11 13:11 | ||
Ant  | Well spotted...I have the MX6 | 2019-02-07 16:18 | ||
Exiv96  | ![[Image: i597658.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/310/i597658.jpg) |
2017-10-02 10:03 | ||
| jpts | This scene was an reenactment of the murder of Martin "The General" Cahill who was shot by members of the Provisional IRA as he sat in his car at the intersection of Oxford Road and Charleston Road in Ranelagh, Dublin on the morning of the 18th August 1994. Martin Cahill was a career criminal in the Dublin Underworld, throughout the 1970s to the early 1990s, he was named in several burglaries and armed robberies. Cahill started off his criminal career as a thief at the age of 15 with his older brother, John. At the age of 16, Cahill had served time in an industrial school for burglary, after his release, Cahill and his older brother continued to commit burglaries in the wealthy areas near where he and his wife, Frances' home at Rathmines in Dublin's Southside Area. Among the burglaries the Cahill Brothers committed, they stole several confiscated firearms from the Garda Síochána depot. By the early 1970s, the Cahill Brothers joined up with the Dunne Gang based in the Dublin's Southside Area of Crumlin and started to commit several armed robberies on security vans and ended on the radar of the Dublin Central Detective Unit. According to Cahill's former associate, Christy "Bronco" Dunne (the brother of later Dunne Gang leader, Larry Dunne), while Cahill was in prison, he had started to build up contacts with the Provisional IRA and copied their tactics when he committed armed robberies. On the 29th January 1981, Cahill and an associate committed an armed robbery on a computer games store at Clondalkin, 10km southwest of Dublin where Cahill and his associate had got away with IR£5,000, but in their haste, they left behind their getaway motorcycle and the money. Forensic scientist, James O'Donovan (who was known for his forensic work in the investigation of the IRA's Assassination of the maternal uncle of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh and second cousin of King George VI, Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma on the 27th August 1979) had found 58 separate prints, linking Cahill to the robbery, while on bail, in early December 1981, Cahill put a bomb under O'Donovan's car, while O'Donovan was travelling on the Naas Road, the bomb detonated, blowing the car onto the central reservation, O'Donovan survived with minor injuries. A month later, on the 6th January 1982, Cahill tried again to , this time he placed the bomb under the bonnet of O'Donovan's new car, as Donovan was driving the same stretch of Naas Road, the bomb detonated, destroying the front of the car and disabling O'Donovan. In 1983, Cahill and his gang had robbed O'Connor's Jewellery Depot at Harold's Cross in South Dublin, resulting in over IR£2 million (or €2.55 million) in gold and diamonds stolen during the raid. In 1986, Cahill and his gang raided the Russborough House in County Wicklow, 35km south of Dublin and stole 18 paintings totaling IR£30 million, in February 1988, the Garda Special Surveillance Unit, Tango Squad to watch Cahill (call-sign Tango One) and his gang. Following the arrest of two of his associates and the present surveillance near Cahill's home, on the night of the 26th February 1988, Cahill retaliated by ordering his gang to slash the tyres of 197 vehicles, 90 of the 197 belonged to Cahill's neighbours, Cahill later returned to his home to find his Mercedes-Benz smashed. -- Last edit: 2022-12-23 14:26:09 |
2016-12-05 03:57 | ||
| the sad biker | Z1000 LTD. | 2016-03-26 20:12 | ||
jplemoine  | Laquelle? La Kawasaki KZ 650 de gauche ou le Massey-Ferguson de droite? | 2013-06-15 18:31 | ||
FernandoDuran  | Looks like an Honda NS-1 50cc als known as Honda NSR 50. Anyway there is a 50cc and a 80cc model but they look the same. Year 2000 |
2013-06-05 02:29 | ||
3asv6  | The LED blind looks like a ex-Lothian vehicle. The LED brand may be Vultron. This is a Leyland Olympian. The following photo shows a similar type in a scrapyard. Except the engine cover and engine removed. Other details are the same. There are something upon the upper deck rear windows on the rear end prove the same vehicle type. http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7376/8840907716_532494b169_b.jpg -- Last edit: 2013-05-30 19:56:40 |
2013-05-30 19:56 | ||
| Sandie | If it is a Formula Ford, for one of this age Van Diemen was the manufacturer (if I remember well from TOCA 2 Touring Cars  ). Only the engine was Ford. -- Last edit: 2013-05-27 20:10:08 |
2013-05-27 20:09 | ||
steerf  | Yep Eurotech | 2013-05-27 20:04 | ||
| Neon | Eurotech I think | 2013-05-23 03:01 | ||
| Neon | In this case 55 SX (first series Punto was distinguished by the HP instead of the CC) | 2013-05-21 15:45 | ||
| Gamer | 1.1 SX 8V according to Cartell. | 2013-05-20 14:31 | ||
130rapid  | Also here. | 2013-05-20 12:56 | ||
| m.pfaffeneder | 1991+ | 2013-05-20 12:35 | ||
| m.pfaffeneder | 1993+ | 2013-05-20 12:35 | ||
| m.pfaffeneder | 1988+ | 2013-05-20 12:34 | ||
| m.pfaffeneder | 1995+ | 2013-05-20 12:33 | ||
tore-40  | Called Transporter Pick-Up in the UK Edit: Irish, not UK. Plate issued first half 1982 so 1982 MY -- Last edit: 2013-05-20 10:20:16 |
2013-05-20 10:06 | ||
| theduggers | Transporter T3 Pritsche | 2013-05-20 09:42 | ||
| rjluna2 | My comments at Traffic Lights in Internet Movie Car Database |
2013-05-20 03:55 | ||
| rjluna2 | 1980/81. | 2013-05-20 03:51 | ||
| Sandie | Backgrounds:![[Image: peugeot306001537.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/peugeot306001537.jpg) ![[Image: rangerover012515.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/rangerover012515.jpg) Another background with an Irish traffic signal for rjluna2: ![[Image: vwgolfcabby012043.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/vwgolfcabby012043.jpg) -- Last edit: 2013-05-20 03:54:57 |
2013-05-20 03:41 | ||
| Sandie | ![[Image: volkswagent32.2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/volkswagent32.2.jpg) |
2013-05-20 03:40 | ||
| Sandie | ![[Image: toyotacarinae.1.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/toyotacarinae.1.jpg) Older one: ![[Image: toyotacarinae012000.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/toyotacarinae012000.jpg) |
2013-05-20 03:37 | ||
| Sandie | ![[Image: opelvectra.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/opelvectra.jpg) ![[Image: opelvectra012614.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/opelvectra012614.jpg) |
2013-05-20 03:33 | ||
| Sandie | Used by the police to tail the main character (protection duty). Visible in the background here and close up in a few other scenes. | 2013-05-20 03:31 | ||
| Sandie | Plate from a Carina E. | 2013-05-20 03:28 |
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