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dsl SXChassis box not big enough to take 421/100/165, so I've chopped the 421 bit. 2021-07-15 12:11
58TwinCam ENThis footage was taken from this film called "Sports Car of the year"

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/the-sports-car-of-the-year-1

Yes there certainly seems to be two different colour ORX885 cars in this film. ORX885 was not white when it left the factory, so unsure at this stage which chassis number / car was the white Twin Cam. Alas these is no date on either film to help narrow the search, other than 1958.

References to 1953 simply can't be correct, as the twin cam was not launched till 14th July 1958. ORX885 is one of two prototypes (so registered before the launch).
2017-01-06 19:36
Pierre ENIt was in 1938, gracesguide.co.uk reminds, us that Archie Frazer Nash (1899-1965) put a hyphen in his name to become 'Frazer-Nash'. Thus, it may be said both forms are correct, depending on the reference period. 2016-05-15 00:34
dsl SXThe Heights of Danger film was made in 1953 - that date is solid. This MGA footage and the other Extras features were included as bonus items on the 2010 DVD (re-)release, as explained on the film's main page. When bonus features accompany commercial releases, we often include and reference them with this method, on the basis that if someone buys the DVD, they might want to know about everything on the disc, not just the centrepiece film. So it is perfectly valid within our systems, provided as I have done that it is annotated as coming from Extras - see the Ep.(isode) note above the main picture on this page. 2015-11-06 15:44
bd64kcmo USThis movie was made in 1953, yes, and verified through IMDB. Pushrod MGA production was not even started until 1955. The Twin Cam engine was the same displacement as the 1600 MkI: 1,588 cc (1.6 L) and production was started in 1958. I therefore have my doubts about the validity of this post. Sorry. 2015-11-06 15:26
dsl SX1939 Dessau/Germany footage of same car/driver - /vehicle.php?id=811045 . 2015-05-02 01:11
dsl SXEX-181 driven to records at Bonneville for Class F land-speed series for cars with engines between 1.1 and 1.5 litres.
23 Aug 1957 - 1489cc producing c290 bhp @ 7000 rpm Supercharged MGA Twin cam engine, running on 86% methanol laced with nitrobenzene, acetone and sulphuric ether. Driver: Stirling Moss 245.64mph - 395.31 km/h (taking the Experimental project 1100-1500cc record from previous record holder who held it at 203mph).
3 Oct 1959 - increased to 1506cc producing over 300 bhp @ 7300 rpm, driver: Phil Hill - 254.91 mph - 410.23 km/h (Experimental project 1500-2000cc class record) - to this day still the fastest MG ever.
(http://silodrome.com/mg-ex-181/ , http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/variants/vt104_ex181.htm )

Footage is 1957 visit only. "Sterling" Moss according to the DVD caption:
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Design:
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Build:
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Preparation:
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Blast-off:
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Job done:
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Our other 2 entries for EX-181 are clearly the same 1957 event, but do not seem to use this Pathe footage.
2015-05-01 23:05
Gamer DEI was going to say that, but Gomsel is from Rosario, so I shut my trap. 2015-05-01 14:00
rjluna2 US
DynaMike a écrit I'm back again (I was in Buenos Aires) ;)

Did you find Gomsel there? :whistle:
2015-05-01 13:28
dsl SX[Image: bigtruckbflickriver.jpg]
in all its mighty glory - screengrab from https://www.flickr.com/photos/39624596@N02/16914708187 . With MG EX-135 on display in the window above. And a trafficlight for rjluna.
2015-05-01 13:13
dsl SX[Image: bigtruckbflickriver.jpg]
- screengrab from https://www.flickr.com/photos/39624596@N02/16914708187 of the Mighty Antar . With MG EX-135 on display in the window above. And a trafficlight for rjluna.
2015-05-01 13:13
Sunbar UKRecognising now that this vehicle was probably nearly new at the time of filming for the Festival of Britain this must be a 1945 CV forward control 5-tonner. The Equi-Load name appeared to be dropped after the war and the 5-tonner was the only forward control CV truck.

New Morris-Commercial Forward-control 5-tonner


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2015-05-01 13:03
Sunbar UKThornycroft Mighty Antar as listed here

Road Transport and the Festival Commercial Motor 4th & 25th May 1951.

"A home-market version of the Thornycroft Mighty Antar will be exhibited at the Festival of Britain from May 28 to June 21. The export machine is 10 ft. 3 ins, wide, whilst the model to be shown is 9 ft. 6 ins. wide. It is equipped for towing a semi-trailer, and its weight, including a light-alloy three-man cab designed to provide maximum visibility and ventilation, is approximately 14¾ tons."

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2015-05-01 12:36
Sunbar UK1938-1945 CV-type Equi-load CS13/100F, probably 4-5 Ton 162" wheelbase f/control truck 6 cyl 3,485 cc

Equi-load used the same designation arrangement of wheelbase and capacity as the C-type range it replaced, four or six cylinder petrol engine and normal or forward control driving position.
2015-05-01 11:57
DynaMike NLI'm back again (I was in Buenos Aires) ;)
The Dyna X is a 1951+ model (shell decoration on the side of the bonnet since October 1950).
2015-05-01 11:55
JCB UKCertainly Thornycroft and very probably Antar . A few other models shared this front end but Antar was king of the hill ! 2015-05-01 11:15
johnfromstaffs EN1938+ Morris Commercial Equiload semi forward control. 2015-05-01 07:44
dsl SXSome pics from the Extras newsreel of MG EX-135 at Bonneville in 1951:
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2015-05-01 03:23
dsl SXTaking MG EX-135 from the 1951 Festival of Britain (with Skylon behind) for shipping to Bonneville for speed records.
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2015-05-01 03:19
dsl SXOn display outside the Festival in 1951. Thornycroft Antar??? (vague memory of Dinky tank transporter trucks - too expensive for me when I were a lad, but I wanted one. Instead I got a Corgi James Bond DB5, which was probably a better outcome. Did anyone else discover the trick that if you opened the roof ejector normally, then pressed the seat back down, put the baddie in and fired the ejector - it then went much higher and further than normal??). 2015-05-01 03:09
dsl SX1951 Bonneville record car, driven by A. T. Goldie Gardner
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"On 4th November 1938, outside Frankfurt, driving the streamlined M.G.Magnette EX135, powered by a supercharged 1,087cc engine producing about 195b.h.p., he set a Class G world record of 186.6 mph over 1km & 186.5 mph over 1mile. The streamlined body was designed by Reid Railton. He was the first man to break 150 mph in a 'baby' car.

On 31 May 1939, at Dessau in Germany, on a road especially built for Mercedes attempt on the outright World Land Speed Record, the EX135 became the first 1100cc car to break 200 mph. International Class G records were set over 1km, 1 mile, and 5km distances, at average speeds of 203.5mph, 203.2mph and 197.5mph respectively. This made him the first man to break 200 mph in a 'baby' car. After an engine rebore increasing the 1,087cc to 1,105cc, on 2 June 1939, 1,101- 1,500cc Class F records were set over the same distances at average speeds of 204.3mph, 203.9mph and 200.6mph.

"On 20 August 1951 at Bonneville Salt Flats, driving the MG EX-135 car he set 6 international and 10 American records in the 1,101-1,500cc class. Class F International Records were set for 50kms, 50miles, 100kms, 100miles, 200kms, & 137.4mph over 1 hour. The American records included 25km, 25miles, 75km & 75miles. Returning to Bonneville in 1952, with the MG EX-135 car, he set 5 International & 16 American speed records in Classes E & F."

(from http://www.landspeedrecordcards.com/Goldie_Gardner.htm )

This newsreel opens with EX-135 on display at the 1951 Festival of Britain:
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from which it is loaded onto an MG-liveried truck
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and shipped to Bonneville where it whizzes very fast round a circular track on the salt flats ...
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... and makes everyone happy (main).
2015-05-01 03:00
dsl SXTwo cars used in the Pathe-produced promotional newsreel, both with ORX 885 plates. Main and this batch of pics are mid-colour (which was apparently blue - see links at end) with black hood, and number plates have frames:
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I was intrigued by these sidescreens as possibly non-standard, but they are normal format for all MGA roadsters until July 59 update when the Twin Cam received the same updates (sliding sidescreens, split front minor lights with indicator segment, revised rear lights) until T-C stopped in June 60.
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Note the weathertight fit
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And then there's the second car with ORX 885 plates - paler (white?) with a pale hood and what look like painted plates without a frame:
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ORX 885 still survives ....
✔ Taxed Tax due: 01 August 2015
MOT Exempt
Date of first registration :22 January 1958
Year of manufacture :1958
Cylinder capacity (cc) :1768cc
Vehicle status : Tax not due
Vehicle colour :RED
.... as a much modified racer - http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/twincam/tc108-500.htm , but was originally the 3rd in a batch of 3 pre-production/prototype Twin Cams registered 5 months before the May 58 launch - http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/twincam/tc108.htm - and went to Dunlop as a test vehicle for ther all-round disc brakes and the new centrelock pressed steel wheels, plus use by BMC Engines Branch at Coventry for testing the Twin Cam engine. And used for publicity appearances and brochure shots. MG sold it off in late 61, but with an ordinary 1622cc pushrod engine so making it officially at that point an MGA Mk2 1600 Deluxe, and its new owner started its racing career - http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/twincam/tc108-500a.htm .
2015-05-01 01:48
DidierF FRReasonable to say "MY: 1952"? 2015-04-30 16:42
fontheking5 SE356 2015-04-30 14:47
tw2003 DEResult for the rally: http://www.teamdan.com/archive/www2/miscral/52miscra.html
No. 136 Porsche Gilberte Thirion (not on the pics)
No. 346 Aston Martin Coupe Godsal (could be the one on the pic) - Did not finish - license plate VMG 606 (chassis LML/50/5) colour dark blue
The Jag could be the one of Gatsonides as Aplleyard drove a white one with license plate NUB 120
No. 114 Porsche De Caralt/Prince Metternich (not on the pics) is a 356 Cabriolet French license plate 498 TT 2Y
2015-04-30 14:24
tw2003 DEAccording to pictures on this page http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/steyrpuch/steyr50_1.htm
The 50 came without a chromed front bumper. In addition the steel wheels did not have the wholes that came with the later models (Spezial and 55) - we can not see the wheels here ;-)
The 50 Spezial had a two tone coloured body.
The 55 had a longer wheelbase.

I would say 55
2015-04-30 11:59
DidierF FRYes. But it would take a DynaMike to tell the MY. Where is DynaMike? And sixcyl? 2015-04-30 00:27
jplemoine FRDyna X? 2015-04-29 22:53
130rapid PLHard to determine these bars here. Shinny color-keyed or chromed? I'd say color-keyed. 2015-04-29 17:13
andrepa DEthis fact makes it a 55 ?

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2015-04-29 14:44
nzcarnerd NZMaybe an HWM?? 2015-04-29 02:28
Sandie SX
dsl a écrit
Tax - Not taxed for on road use - :think: never seen that phrase before on DVLA records


www.autoshite.com/topic/20082-not-taxed-for-on-road-use/

-- Last edit: 2015-04-29 01:13:07
2015-04-29 01:12
DidierF FR
DidierF a écrit (What about having your terrific Heights of Danger on the complete list?)

dsl a écrit ^ OK done. Glad you like it.

I would be very pecky not to. The only two Dellows in fiction movies we have are here! And of two different kinds! (I luuuv that!)
2015-04-29 01:08
dsl SXAgreed - "Approximately 95 Mk11 cars were built between May 1951 and the last car produced in 1957" - http://dellowregister.co.uk/dellow-models . Lots of Dellow stuff online, loads of pictures, high survival rate - but no sign of one with xS 445 or xxS 445 plate. 2015-04-29 00:28
dsl SXThat's the main film finished. Have just realised it is almost exactly the template for the first Herbie film (plot, characters, mood, twee humour - although thankfully the MG does not have the irritating "personality" of that obnoxious Beetle, and it is not Disneyfied into such a gooey sickly mess). So while it is definitely a film for 10 year olds and under - with all the limitations that carries - it is still worth watching for the impressive array of cars and some great scenery. Try
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZpPUoqg_iU ("Reels 1 & 2") and so on for the full 7 reels in good quality, or
- http://www.britishpathe.com/video/heights-of-danger-reels-1-2 and so on in poorer quality, or
- get the DVD like wot I did (it's easy to find and cheap).

DVD has 4 extras
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I'll do Safety Fast as a separate entry, and the other 3 - which are just Pathe newsreel sequences (each about 3 minutes long) as Extras for this entry. Entered in episode box as
- Extra1 = Goldie Gardner EX-135 @ Bonneville (1951)
- Extra2 = "Sterling Moss" :??: EX-181 @ Bonneville (1957)
- Extra3 = MGA Twin Cam Production (1958)


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2015-04-29 00:06
dsl SXThe centrepiece of the film - which is pretty much the template for the first Herbie film (although the MG does not have an irritating "personality" like that obnoxious Beetle). Early 52 plate in same Berkshire series as the Riley, so may well be factory supplied. I kept noticing how spare wheel(s) on back keep changing - hubcap/no hubcap, normal wheel/wide wheel, sometimes 2 tyres/sometimes 1.

At the family garage in Buckinghamshire
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At a local trial/hillclimb (the continuity goes a bit AWOL; hillclimb may be Shelsley Walsh in Worcestershire) and back home, including helping the poorly Humber
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Off to catch the Dover ferry, and being craned on board
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Foreign stuff on the rally, carrying all the luggage. Note how rally plates appear and disappear. Some sequences clearly took place with an actual rally, other bits are recreations, and there are studio bits against a rolling scenic backcloth
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And a "foreign" bit very obviously filmed in UK - could be Lake District, but my hunch is A5 in North Wales near Bethesda, due to slate quarries. The castle/grotto/whatever beside the road should be a clue where.
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Despite all the errors and shortcuts onscreen, it is still a very good portrait of the MG in all sorts of interesting settings and contexts, and the cinematography is excellent.
2015-04-28 23:47
130rapid PLI think there's grille difference between 50 and 55.
50 had color-keyed vertical bars, 55 - chromed.
2015-04-28 23:34
andrepa DEnicked Baby it is like a miniature of Adler Autobahn

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2015-04-28 23:19
fortengo HULooks like a Dellow also to me. Seems to be fitted with doors, so a Mark 2? 2015-04-28 23:10
dsl SX[Image: 55-31xk120njh991.jpg] [Image: 55-31xk120njh991b.jpg]

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The last twist of the ... um ..... thrilling finale - I was so excited I forgot to drink my cocoa. Somehow the rally has turned into a race to the finishing line, and the fake radio commentary says the MG has to overtake this leader in the last couple of hundred yards to the finishing line. And it does with one last superhuman effort, which looks as if reached 20 mph as the scenery rushed past. And then even more amazingly, the Jag became the Frazer Nash Mille Miglia
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as it finished 2nd

Jag has slightly disguised 1951 plate NJH 991, plus an F plaque on boot.
2015-04-28 22:54
fortengo HUA Steyr 50 or 55? 2015-04-28 22:44
130rapid PLRounded engine cover edge indicates car made in Mlada Boleslav plant, late 1951-1952 only. 2015-04-28 22:36
dsl SX[Image: 55-14convb.jpg] [Image: 55-14convc.jpg]

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The ... um ..... thrilling finale - somehow the rally has turned into a race to the finishing line, and the fake radio commentary says the MG has to overtake this 2nd place "Italian" car. Which has disguised English plates and Ford Popular wheels.

Maybe another Dellow?? Or??
2015-04-28 22:31
130rapid PL1937+ 230 Lang [W143] with 'Tourenwagen' body. Cheapest way to own [W143] in 4-door cabriolet form. 2015-04-28 22:30
dsl SXContinuity goes weird at this point - goes straight from Austria to very French-looking scenery. 2015-04-28 22:22
dsl SX[Image: 49-01car.jpg]

Probably Austria; if not it's somewhere Alpine with German-language signs on houses.
2015-04-28 22:15
dsl SXSeen a lot after 48-46
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2015-04-28 22:11
fortengo HUA nice Tatra T600 Tatraplan. 2015-04-28 22:02
dsl SX[Image: 39-21lloydb37.jpg] [Image: 39-21lloydc.jpg]

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#37, supposed to be 1952 Alpine rally car, chases the MG through some villages
2015-04-28 21:59
fortengo HUA 1934+ Aston Martin MK II, I think. 2015-04-28 21:54

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