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RedBoy9199 DE1999+ Expert, cargo version of Avenir. 2023-06-18 00:28
RedBoy9199 DE2001+ taillights. 2023-06-02 02:18
Gamer DENovember 2018+ in Japan (2019 MY) 2023-03-15 18:50
reck961 US2018+ 2023-03-15 18:44
Jnglmpera JPSelf-correction: Apparently they were called "Discovery 3" here officially. https://www.carsensor.net/catalog/landrover/discovery_3/ 2023-02-26 06:47
Andyhao TWFull name: 2007+ Bluebird Sylphy

2007-08: Bluebird Sylphy
2009-10: New Bluebird
2010-13: Bluebird

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2023-02-09 05:16
AleX_DJ ATYes I agree. I posted the sources above only for a reference. I believe that if the development is shared between Japan and overseas R&D centres AND the model is sold also in Japan, then a Japan origin should be ok. For example, in the case of the C-HR or the first two Yaris generations, or also for the Yaris Cross.
In the case of the new Yaris, I'm not sure whether the European and Asian models have got enough structural differences for different origin tags :think: (it's not the case of the GR Yaris, for sure)
2023-01-08 20:07
Bux_48 ITThat's exactly what I thought :think: 2023-01-08 15:33
antp BEIndeed, we should not too quickly change that. Of course it is fine for models fully conceived in Europe and sold only there for the most, but for the others aren't for many of these just shared developments with a part in Europe but still the main development managed from Japan?
For example for the current Yaris (4th, XP210), Wikipedia mentions:
Quote Built on the GA-B platform, its development was led by chief engineer Yasunori Suezawa and chief hybrid engineer Takashi Uehara under the internal "Toyota Compact Car Company".

As the car is slightly different in Japan than in the rest of the world (narrower in Asia) it is possible that the European office was in charge for the design of the bodywork for the European market, for example? (and all the internal stuff conceived in Japan)


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2023-01-08 15:29
Bux_48 ITI'm not really sure would be useful to list all of those models with EU (or not Japanese) origin? Of course I may be wrong, but the manufacturer could mean that they're global models, intended since the beginning also for Europe, so with (part of) research done by the European R&D centre, or meaning that the differences between JDM and Euro models would be the result of the European imput? Or it may even be underlined that way for marketing reasons?
IMHO, I'd make EU origin (or even the specific country - is the R&D center in France or Belgium?) only those ones mainly developed for EU, so Auris/Corolla wagon, Avensis, Corolla Verso and Aygo X (I believe some of these weren't/aren't even sold in Japan?), but personally I'd feel a bit weird about seeing for example the regular Yaris as EU origin (so JDM ones would be set as that too, with made for J tag)?
2023-01-08 15:12
Jnglmpera JPThink we might have to take this to the mass model change thread on the forums :think:

Also, this is something that I was wondering for a while, but what makes a car "EU origin" instead of whatever country the R&D Center is based in (in Toyota's case I think it was France...?)?
2023-01-08 14:36
AleX_DJ ATWikipedia reports a list of Toyota vehicles that were designed by the European R&D: some are already known to us (we already list all the Avensis and Corolla Verso models as origin EU), other ones are new to hear but there are proofs that the informations are correct. The models for which an EU-flag could be considered are:

- Toyota Yaris hatchback, excluding the 3rd generation (XP120)
- Toyota C-HR
- Toyota Yaris Cross
- Toyota Auris 1st generation (E150)
- Toyota Auris and Corolla wagon variants (E180 and E210 models)
- Toyota Aygo X

Some reliable sources to help an eventual discussion of this topic:

Toyota en France, August 2013 wrote

[...] Son équipe a déjà dessiné notamment les Toyota Yaris première et deuxième générations, Avensis, Corolla Verso, Auris, [...] Plus récemment le Verso et les Avensis [...]

[...] Its team already designed the first and second generation Toyota Yaris, the Avensis, the Corolla Verso, the Auris, [...] More recently, the Verso and the Avensis [...]


https://www.toyota-france.fr/pdf/4p_toyota-en-france_08-2013_v7.pd (the publication cites also the Lexus SC, the Toyota Prius [ZVW30] and the Land Cruiser [J150] among the European R&D works, but according to the informations I've found they are collaboration works with the Japanese design teams in the first two cases and only the facelift in the case of the Land Cruiser, same for the 3rd-gen Yaris [XP120])

Toyota France - Le centre de design européen, ED2 wrote

[...]Ses missions les plus récentes concernent la Yaris 4e génération, le C-HR [...]

[...] Its latest missions concern the 4th-generation Yaris, the C-HR [...]


https://www.toyota.fr/decouvrez-toyota/groupe/centre-design-europeen (the site reports also a number of concept cars developped in Europe and some interviews to the members of the design team of the Yaris [XP210]: also in this case the work was a collaboration between European and Japanese teams, but it seems that in this case most of the work was made in Europe :think: )

Toyota Europe - Toyota Europe Design Development wrote

[...]The exterior and CMF of the B-segment SUV Yaris Cross were designed on the French Riviera.[...] Our most recent work was the Toyota Aygo X Prologue in March 2021.


Link to "www.toyota-europe.com"

Interview to Lance Scott, Design General Manager of Toyota ED2 Design, talking about their work on the Yaris Cross and C-HR

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2023-01-08 14:16
RedBoy9199 DE*1997 in Japan. 2023-01-08 05:04
Jnglmpera JPUnfortunately there weren't really any usable side shots for our ID'ing :( 2023-01-08 04:54
Jnglmpera JPInteresting, so it's more an Avensis than a Corolla :think:

I guess if that's the case the other entry that I linked should be listed as an EU-origin then? :think
2023-01-08 04:53
AleX_DJ AT
Jnglmpera wrote ... which is already listed. I thought they were designed here though?


The Touring Sports was designed by the European R&D center, as stated by the chief engineer:

Yasushi Ueda, Toyota Chief Engineer wrote
[...]
Therefore we conducted extensive testing in several European countries, including Belgium because of the involvement of our colleagues at the European R&D centre there, who were in charge of the development for the Touring Sports model.[...]



https://newsroom.toyota.eu/2019-the-toyota-corolla/
2023-01-07 19:45
the sad biker UKAnother Harley, that chrome frame around the seat is typical of late 60's into 70's Shovelhead FLH Electra Glides with the hydraulic damped solo seat.

The feature was dropped in the early 80's and was certainly gone before the Evo motor in '85.
2023-01-07 15:22
the sad biker UKYes same bike.

Modified Harley FLHsomething. Twin shocks & fat 16" front wheel would indicate stripped down Electra/Sport Glide derivative.

A shot of the motor would help.
2023-01-07 15:12
Jnglmpera JPFront visible here?
[Image: Vehicle 1742854]
2023-01-07 12:39
Jnglmpera JP[Image: Vehicle 1742853] 2023-01-07 12:39
Jnglmpera JP[Image: kodokus10sp_raize.jpg] 2023-01-07 12:38
Jnglmpera JP[*]
[Image: ep12_crown-black.jpg]
2023-01-07 12:37
Jnglmpera JPThis thing, also visible on several of the photos posted on Google Maps... based on an old Nissan Civilian?
Link to "tourism-busphoto.com"
https://www.jalan.net/yad318838/qa/0000308041.html
https://goo.gl/maps/NxejiFQw4GfYirNj6
2023-01-07 12:36
Jnglmpera JPLower trim sibling from the same episode [*]
[Image: ep4_noah-lowtrim.jpg]
2023-01-07 12:34
Jnglmpera JP... which is already listed. I thought they were designed here though? 2023-01-07 12:33
Jnglmpera JPhttps://ameblo.jp/tubutappuri-san/entry-12771712649.html
https://twitter.com/koedo_bus/status/1509215455772172293

Pretty much a brand new bus :)

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2023-01-07 12:32
AleX_DJ ATEU-designed Toyota Corolla Touring [E210] on the left 2023-01-07 11:48
Jnglmpera JPSeason 10 and 2022 Special completed.
[Image: season10_titlecard.jpg]

Too pixellated...
[Image: ep9_crown.1.jpg] [Image: ep9_dayzroox.jpg]

Choice LQ
[Image: ep2_mb.jpg] [Image: ep2_tokyubus.jpg] [Image: ep8_whitecars.jpg] [Image: ep10_camry.jpg] [Image: ep10_fitshuttle.jpg] [Image: ep10_vezel-blurry.jpg] [Image: ep11_toobackground.jpg] [Image: ep12_bentley.jpg] [Image: kodokus10sp_terioskid.jpg]

Street cars
[Image: ep8_streetcar.jpg] [Image: kodokus10sp_sapporoshiden.jpg]

Hokkaido traffic light for rjluna
[Image: kodokus10sp_shingo.jpg]

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2023-01-07 05:06
Jnglmpera JPMakes a return in Season 10...

10.05 [*][*]
[Image: ep5_mini.jpg] [Image: ep5_mini2.jpg]

10.12 and 10.Special [*][*][*]
[Image: kodokus10sp_mini-front.jpg] [Image: ep12_mini.jpg] [Image: kodokus10sp_ferry.jpg] [Image: Vehicle 1742856] [Image: Vehicle 1742858]
2023-01-07 05:05
Jnglmpera JP10.Special
[Image: kodokus10sp_exiga.jpg]
2023-01-07 04:58
Jnglmpera JP10.10 [*]
[Image: ep10_tanto.jpg]
2023-01-07 04:37
Jnglmpera JP10.08 [*]
[Image: ep8_wagonr.jpg]
2023-01-07 04:32
Jnglmpera JP10.08 [*]
[Image: ep8_altolapin.jpg]
2023-01-07 04:26
Jnglmpera JP10.06 [*]
[Image: ep6_noah.jpg]
2023-01-07 04:24
Jnglmpera JP10.04 [*]
[Image: ep6_hustler.jpg]
2023-01-07 04:23
Jnglmpera JP10.04 [*]
[Image: ep4_noah-r70.jpg]
2023-01-07 04:12
Jnglmpera JPParking it here for now as I'm not sure if it's an Erga or a Blue Ribbon: 10.03 [*]
[Image: ep3_yokohamacitybus.jpg]

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2023-01-07 04:04
Jnglmpera JP10.11 [*]
[Image: ep11_fit.jpg]

Hybrid version 10.02 [*]
[Image: ep2_fithybrid.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2023-01-07 04:41:51
2023-01-07 03:59
Jnglmpera JP10.01 [*]
[Image: ep1_stepwgn.1.jpg]
2023-01-07 03:58
Jnglmpera JPLow roof version in 10.01 [*]
[Image: ep1_nv350.jpg]
2023-01-07 03:55
dhill_cb7 USCould be a 520V too. 2022-12-29 09:15
dhill_cb7 USVan version. 2022-12-11 18:21
Andyhao TW[F23] 2022-12-11 07:21
RushCars24ID IDMain looks to be an Alphard Hybrid [AYH30W], notice the wheels and elongated side fender badge. 2022-12-01 05:06
Exiv96 BEI think the main one is from April 2001 onwards, when, from what I see on parts schematics, the Aeras got a dedicated one-piece bumper instead of a bolt-on spoiler. 2022-11-29 01:38
Andyhao TW2012 by plate 2022-11-18 05:30
Andyhao TW2004 by plate 2022-11-18 05:30
Andyhao TWBoth are 2009+

2007+
[Image: 300808da910164edf841cc94704ef132.jpg]
2009+
[Image: 201910241417153903.jpg]
2022-11-18 05:30
Jnglmpera JPForgot to put Sport... [:halalala]
/vehicles_make-Subaru_model-Impreza+Sport.html

-- Last edit: 2022-10-28 16:53:15
2022-10-28 16:53
dhill_cb7 USIndeed assembled in Thailand per this article. 2022-10-10 15:45

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