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DynaMike a écrit
[...] Bu my info doesn't say anything about the names in Belgium (unlike the later catalogues). And my catalogue from 1969 doesn't even mention the wagon versions :/


The 1970 Belgian brochure says Break:
[Image: 1970fordescortbelgique-fr-04.jpg]

By the way, as this model was first introduced by Ford UK, and as the German production started only in January 1970 (de), shouldn't it have a UK origin?

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2016-06-20 03:22
malaka91 ESModel origin: Belgium 2012-06-28 22:52
tom111976 Flandria 147-AFA http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0473.htm 2012-02-15 04:19
chris40 UKBut by the shape of the rear window it's 1973+. 2009-11-12 20:01
DynaMike NLYep. 2009-11-12 18:54
Neon ITMade for B (fog lamp)? 2009-11-12 18:29
oraziosatta ESFord Fiesta L / 1,1 L. 2009-06-29 16:48
LAGPanoramic BEFor me, it is a Van Hool model 440, integral with Fiat engine in the middle. The 2 others are definitely Jonckheere.
Pour moi, c'est un VH modèle 440, intégral à moteur Fiat, au centre. Les 2 autres sont effectivement des Jonckheere.
PS pr fsebus: nan, les Van Hool n'étaient pas sur châssis complet Fiat. C'était un châssis Van Hool, avec tous les autres composants comme sur le châssis équivalent de Fiat. Donc, laseule différence entre un "vrai" chassis Fiat 320 et un Van Hool type 320 sont en fait les longerons et les boulons ;)
2009-02-16 22:34
LAGPanoramic BEIt is not a model 300, and model 300 had just one version. It is a body on Daf chassis, the letters "Daf" can be seen between the front lights. 2009-02-16 22:28
titus FRIl s'agit soit d'un VH 440 (moteur fiat situé dans l'empattement), soit d'un VH 700, (moteur arrière), construits de 1971 à 1977 grosso modo.
le VH 300, bien que ressemblant, est légèrement différent, plus "aplati".
Ces photos sont malheureusement rares sur le net.
2009-01-04 21:55
Weasel1984 PLFrom this angle a bit similar to BMW is, but it is Audi. 2008-12-28 19:34
carchasesfanatic ESIt still resembles a BMW 1600 to me. 2008-12-28 19:25
Ingo DEBMW or VW? ;)

Compare it with a BMW 02-pic and annother Audi 60, than you'll see, that it's an Audi.

2008-12-28 19:13
carchasesfanatic ESIt looks like a 1600 to me. 2008-12-28 19:10
Ingo DE
carchasesfanatic a écrit Isn't it a BMW?


No, the shape doesn't fit.
2008-12-28 19:07
walter ITI think 1969 Audi 60 [F103] then ;) 2008-12-28 18:46
carchasesfanatic ESIsn't it a BMW? 2008-12-28 18:44
Ingo DERather an Audi 60 than anything else. Quite sure a 60. What else? 2008-12-28 18:39
walter ITThe black one on the top? It's not an Audi 100. Maybe a 60. But I've some doubt about if it's really an Audi :think:
@ Ingo: Can you help me?

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2008-12-28 18:37
fsebus FREn effet, à l' époque (début 70s), il y avait un partenariat très marqué entre FIAT et V-Hool pour des cars et même des autobus (cf STIB, SNCV ou certain "midibus" rencontrés en France à Orléans, Cannes,... =T314)

Par la suite (création Iveco?), V-H carrossera plutôt sur MAN (+ d'autres ), en particulier sur la gamme T800...
2008-12-21 12:35
antp BE"Van-Hool-FIAT" -> ça veut dire carrosserie Van Hool sur châssis Fiat je suppose ? 2008-12-18 11:25
fsebus FRVan Hool (série 300, 2° version des 70's) 2008-12-18 02:39
fsebus FRSemble en effet un Van-Hool-FIAT série 300(2° version, début années 70)

Derrière, les 2 cars semblent être des Jonckheere
2008-12-18 02:37
fck PL300? 2008-12-17 20:32
sixcyl FRI can't be sure that Turnier was the name in France too?... I really can't remember having seen any in France , this Escort version beeing very very rare there, and I even wonder if it was saled in France :think:
2008-12-01 19:56
DynaMike NLThe S-version (with black grille, mirrors and striping, and special rims) was new for model year 1977. 2008-12-01 14:32
DynaMike NL
sixcyl a écrit Ok, but that was relative to the MkII ... so :think:

That's true... In 1973 the Mk.I was also called Stationwagon in Holland. Bu my info doesn't say anything about the names in Belgium (unlike the later catalogues). And my catalogue from 1969 doesn't even mention the wagon versions :/
2008-12-01 13:05
sixcyl FRit matches quite well

http://www.cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/flandria/Flandria_moped_rhs.htm
2008-12-01 12:33
jplemoine FRFlandria Moped, je crois... 2008-12-01 10:44
jplemoine FRHonda, je confirme... 2008-12-01 10:44
rpcm PT1977 2008-12-01 02:26
rpcm PTIt's a 1.6 S, but I'm not sure if it was available from the 1st model year of the Capri II. 2008-12-01 02:21
sixcyl FR:) I had never paid attention on that detail, but it worth it ;) 2008-12-01 00:10
sixcyl FRor Autobianchi Primula Coupé? 2008-12-01 00:06
sixcyl FRObviously, I forgot to remove the US origin set by default 2008-12-01 00:03
DynaMike NLMade for B, by the rear fog light... 2008-11-30 22:57
DynaMike NLWell, actually you're quite right... AFAIK, back then Belgium was the only country where foglights on the rear were mandatory, and these lights are bigger than, for example, the Italian extra side indicators... 2008-11-30 22:53
Ingo DEI think, it would be too exaggerated, if we would list the car as "Made for Belgium". It has this ugly (federally for Belgium) fog-lamp-brick. 2008-11-30 22:47
Ingo DEThe licence-plate is older than the car, am I right? 2008-11-30 22:44
Ingo DEOrign USA? Wouldn't origin Britain be correct? 2008-11-30 22:26
Ingo DEIsn't it a Peugeot 304 Coupé behind it? 2008-11-30 22:26
Ingo DEAn Opel Rekord A behind it. 2008-11-30 22:25
Exiv96 BEJonckheere. 2008-11-30 22:24
Ingo DECalled sometimes by freaks "NSU Bus" - the back lamps are identical with that of the NSU 1200/Typ 110. ;) 2008-11-30 22:23
DAF555 SEThis is a 412 due to the more edgy rear end, even if it´s a fuzzy image 2008-11-30 22:15
DAF555 SE1968-71 due to older hubcaps, flat hubcaps from 1972.

Not sure about name for Belgium if it´s a Bus, from outside Combi and Bus look identical from introduction of the T2. On the T1 buses were in two-tone paint and combis only in one single color.

There are not many brouchures available on the net for the T2 models, but earlier models often corresponded with modelnames used in France or Netherlands depending on printings. So if it´s a Bus I guess it would be called VW Car, designation Bus wasn´t common until later even if it appeared on some markets.
2008-11-30 22:14
DynaMike NLI was hesitating about this as well... But the overriders are too thin to be the 'normal' ones, they just look a bit odd because the pic is 'slightly' blurred. And the AZM3 had the same paperclip overriders as the AZAM(6). Only the AZA had the normal bumpers and overriders, but these had, even in Belgium, indicators on the C-pillar... There was also an AZL3 with the front indicators, but these had alloy bumpers. I hoped there would have been a pic from the rear on which one could see the presence or absence of an exhaust pipe, but /vehicle_202900-Peugeot-504-1975.html isn't much help.
Btw, the grille is too old, one can see the double chevron above it, that match with the grille with three bars.
2008-11-30 20:38
rjluna2 USAt least it is 1968/72... 2008-11-30 20:21
sixcyl FRYou' re probably right Mike, and I wonder if I'm not wrong with AZAM 6, because of bumpers. The AZAM 6 had enforced overiders as the french AZAM, this one seems having not ... could it be rather an AZM3 for this reason? 2008-11-30 20:20
sixcyl FROk, but that was relative to the MkII ... so :think: 2008-11-30 20:16

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