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Bux_48 ITWe didn't get the 1.8 GL, only plain 1.8 we had (at least for MY90) was the CL Syncro, whereas for the 1.6 TD GL, I simply forgot to include it :D of course it can be, as it also had these wheels. 2023-02-26 23:11
AleX_DJ ATWhat about a GL with higher engine option? 1800 or Turbo Diesel? 2023-02-26 22:32
Bux_48 ITThe 1.3 was sold in Italy only as carburetted non-catalyzed version and fuel-injected catalyzed version, whereas the 1.6 was always carburetted, even if catalyzed. Anyway I researched a bit today, and last night I completely overlooked the fact that in Italy the GTD had the MY90 bumpers, as confirmed by this pic coming from a 2/90 test on Quattroruote:
[Image: 20230226_170558jpg.jpg]
So the above car could be a GTD or a 1.6 GL (wheelarches should point to GTD, even if I believe they were available also on the GL; tested car I posted earlier didn't have them, but they are to find quite often on GL, also in period pictures).
About the wheels, I have yet to find a picture of a period-correct/original 1.6 CL (uncommon version here, 1.6 were almost always GL) but 1.6 GL, regardless if catalyzed or not, had standard 14" wheels indeed.
For reference, after MY90 we got only one special edition (other than the runout Function), the Madison, which was only 1.6 (catalyzed or not) and had 14" wheels too, but retained the older bumpers. A nice example: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lorenzossc/18741332305

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2023-02-26 20:50
AleX_DJ AT
Bux_48 wrote Can you pull the grey one I posted to see if it's a 1.3 or a 1.6 and if it's catalyzed? I got no results.


VC569044
Telaio: WVWZZZ1GZLB088267
Motore: 2G
Immatricolazione Italia: 13/07/1990
Immatricolazione Estera: -
Ultima Revisione: 22/07/2022

VW Golf II
model year 1990, production number 088267
production plant Brussel (B)

2G corresponds to the 1300 engine, but I'm not sure which version, if the standard carburetted version, the U-Kat or the fuel-injected :think:
2023-02-26 01:04
Bux_48 ITThat's what I thought, but probably only for 1.6 (or even catalyzed 1.6). I believe 1.3 still had 13-inches wheels. Can you pull the grey one I posted to see if it's a 1.3 or a 1.6 and if it's catalyzed? I got no results. 2023-02-26 00:55
AleX_DJ ATMaybe Italy received the GL 1600 with standard 14-inches wheels, differently by Germany? This could explain the different rims :think: 2023-02-26 00:51
Bux_48 ITI'm quite puzzled by this one, I've been researching a bit and:
for 1990MY we didn't get special editions and GT and GT Special trims weren't sold here. GL had the usual wheels: [Image: 27218014771_3951ab961e_o.jpg] but it seems that the catalyzed 1.6 in GL trim had the GT/GTD wheels, as appearing in a Quattroruote test (October 1989 issue, sorry for the pics, car always was pictured moving :D ):
[Image: 20230225_191704jpg.jpg] [Image: 20230225_191714jpg.jpg] [Image: 20230225_191723jpg.jpg]
but it anyway didn't have wheelarches..on the other hand the pictured car doesn't have a GTI side badge :??:
So without a front shot, I'm leaning towards a catalyzed 1.6 GL with wheelarches added maybe even by the dealer, as it's a 1990 movie, so too soon for a customization :think:
2023-02-25 23:40
Gamer DEIn 1990 these wheels were only available on the GT/GTD, which had the lower-trim bumpers. Perhaps some Italian special edition? 2023-02-25 18:55
Bux_48 IT1985+ 1a serie 2021-04-13 12:45
dsl SXAgree - 89+ 16v wider bonnet vent. 2012-12-13 04:45
RyanTee82 USWere those side indicator repeaters the only major exterior change between the Phantom V and Phantom VI? 2012-08-02 11:08
RyanTee82 USThis was built as a V and renumbered a VI? Weird, I had no idea they did that kind of thing.

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2011-03-30 05:57
stu DEYes, V8 2010-07-22 13:45
AlexPal UKThe hotel's drivers confirmed she is from 1967.
The interior being rather plain, with ordinary cloth in the rear compartment would go rather well with the idea hat this was a prototype...
In winter she is on snow tires, and a small "tray" sits on the rear bumper to carry skis...
2010-03-25 00:05
Sir Henry UKThis is Phantom VI PRH 1500, the Phantom VI prototype. She was built in 1967 as Phantom V 5VF83, but was later renumbered as a PVI. You can tell it's PRH1500 by the position of the side indicator repeaters. These are absent on a PV and on a regular PVI they're located right above the front wheels. On PRH1500 they're positioned a little ahead of their normal position.
Here's PRH1500 as she is today, a courtesy car at the Palace Hotel in St. Moritz:
http://www.klassiekergespot.nl/viewimages.php?id=1214748364814082008153219


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2008-09-09 16:37
park-ward FRIt may be a 1962-1968 Phantom V to design 2003 or a 1968-1972 Phantom VI, to design ... 2003. If we could see the windscreen scuttle, it would be easy to tell what it is. Prior to 1962, design 2003 featured single headlamps and after 1972 it had suicide rear doors as written above. 2008-08-09 14:00
rpcm PTIt's a 1990 model year car ( by the bumpers ). 2007-09-12 20:47
greybear ENYeah, I'm sure you're right chris40, it's just something at the back of my mind tells me that I read of some wanabees asking for the same version, though maybe without the clearview panels. Perhaps I'm thinking of the IV which was only sold to Heads of State. The memory's starting to go...soon be time for my nap! 2007-09-12 12:06
walter ITOh yes. I'm sure ;) 2007-09-12 12:05
chris40 UK
greybear wrote I Guess this is a Mulliner Park Ward body - not nearly so elegant as the single headlight James Young version IMHO. What identifies it as a V as opposed to a VI? The windscreen seems tall - is it a 'top hat' version?


The top-hat version, surely, is HM's old Phantom VI (before she got the Bentley).

http://luxurycarphotos.tripod.com/77rollsphantomVI.jpg
2007-09-12 11:04
greybear ENAs far as I can determine, suicide doors may have been discontinued by 1970 which adds weight to your argument. 2007-09-12 10:13
chris40 UKDank U wel, peekay64. I guessed right, then. :D


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2007-09-12 10:09
peekay64 NLMajor difference between the two cars is the front hinged and rear hinged rear doors. The V's all had rear hinged (suicide) doors, whereas somewhere along the line of production of the VI (I think as per 1972) new safety legislation forced RR to change the rear doors to front hinged, 'normal' opening. Because it happened early in the production process, it's not a clearcut fact, but one can more or less assume, since the differences are so slight, this is in fact a phantom V 2007-09-12 09:57
garco NLWell, if Walter thinks it's a V8, I think it too...Let's wait for his comment... ;) 2007-09-12 09:44
car nerd USDo you mean the black care in the far left corner? I fairly sure it's an Audi but I don't believe it's a V8. :think: Looks more like a regular 100 or an 80 to me. 2007-09-12 08:50
ben68 BE:love: 1989-91 2007-09-12 08:47
ben68 BE1989-95 2007-09-12 08:45
nzcarnerd NZFrom looking at those two links I would say PV because the PVI has square fog lights.

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2007-09-12 06:14
chris40 UKPhantom V: http://www.antique-limos.com/RollsPV2002%20copy.jpg

Phantom VI: Link to "storm.tocmp.com"

Take your pick! I did bracket it with queries.
2007-09-11 21:37
wickey SKwhy not PVI? 2007-09-11 19:14
greybear ENI Guess this is a Mulliner Park Ward body - not nearly so elegant as the single headlight James Young version IMHO. What identifies it as a V as opposed to a VI? The windscreen seems tall - is it a 'top hat' version? 2007-09-11 18:31
chris40 UK?Phantom V? 2007-09-11 15:17

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