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Lateef  | Not called 'Two-Ten' in Australia. | 2023-06-05 23:08 | ||
rjluna2  | Model 2103. | 2023-06-05 22:44 | ||
Z2  | 1988-1990 -- Last edit: 2020-09-12 19:47:12 |
2020-09-12 18:26 | ||
| Z2 | Plate OLZ issued in 1982 | 2020-05-26 21:13 | ||
dsl  | "Note that local ambulances were based on a government issue 4X2 F250 not widely available to the public during this period." (with the usual Aus-assembled version being F-150) from https://www.motoring.com.au/used-car-advice-ford-f-series-1985-92-1945/ | 2018-08-18 23:31 | ||
| rtsbusman1997 | Yep. Built in Aus, Made for AUS | 2017-05-09 03:00 | ||
| Keats | Chrysler Valiant - from the boot badge, most likely an AP5. | 2017-05-05 16:01 | ||
| rtsbusman1997 | Made for AUS due to the amber indicators and repeaters. | 2017-02-01 06:46 | ||
| Moke | The pictured Moke was built between 1977 and the end of 1979. The rear lights, fuel tank filler location and spare wheel mount provide the references to its age. The seats are non genuine and have been replaced at sometime. Australian Mokes were only fitted with 998, 1098 and 1275 engines in A and A+ variants towards the end of production in 1982. Never fitted with 850's. 1098 were fitted up until 1974 when the Australian British Leyland Motor Company factory was closed. 1275 engines were used in only in YDO30 between late 1971 and April 1973 and then were re-introduced in 1978 when the engine and disc brakes were also fitted to the LS Mini. The YDO18, and YDO30, was the Australian Drawing office code that was used up until 1978 when a global change to how Leyland identified their vehicles saw the model number become part of the body/VIN numbers so there was never another YDO code issued for the 1978 and 1979 models that some could the 'facelift' models. |
2016-03-06 13:53 | ||
| MisterZ | Yes, correct. Just "RFW". |
2016-02-26 02:37 | ||
eLMeR  | Couldn't the tire shape suggest a 4WD model? | 2016-02-09 23:56 | ||
nzcarnerd  | As far as I can work out the twin headlight set up makes this one a Harley-Davidson FLTC Tour Glide Classic and it dates from the early 1990s. | 2016-02-06 20:16 | ||
mike962  | from what I gather here they didn't have a model name http://www.fire-engine-photos.com/picture/number4650 |
2016-02-06 12:41 | ||
130rapid  | Agree. If we trust the position of logo on front wing is genuine, it's [HK]. -- Last edit: 2016-02-06 11:11:31 |
2016-02-06 10:49 | ||
| dsl | But the other sources are not particularly consistent between them from what I can see, and do not have as specific a sequence of the name/code changes. Even with the book, things get peculiar after about 1975, but up to that point I think the book has the most complete sequence and is logical in that code changes were applied for each mechanical change - other sources mention mechanical changes and some of the codes, but do not marry them particularly well. What the other sources can add - which my book does not give in any depth - is visible detail changes to things like lights or bodywork so we can improve dating. As a result of tonight's exchanges and your links, I think we can pin down new bigger rectangular front sidelights - which I've never been able to date before - as 72+ accompanying the Leyland rebranding, and maybe the bigger rear lights (as this one) to the same facelift. |
2016-02-06 01:22 | ||
| dsl | Update: Aus emission laws killed off domestic approval for 1275cc in 1974 and 1098cc in 1975, so all domestic (ie sold in Aus) Mokes became 998cc then, which almost certainly meant a new code - currently unknown - to replace use of YDO18 and YDO30. And this would apply to 1977 Californian relaunch in 998cc form. But it also seems 1275cc was re-adopted late 1979 until production end in late 1981. | 2016-02-06 01:06 | ||
| eLMeR | I don't really like relying on a single source, all the more when it doesn't really match what is said in several others, including Australian and UK ones... | 2016-02-06 01:01 | ||
| dsl | My main source is this book, which has detailed listings of what was built and when at the end. UK-built Mokes were always only 848cc, and I don't know of a specific UK ADO code apart from the generic early Mini ADO15. Digging deeper online it seems Aus assembled CKD kits from UK from 66-68, which I assume retained same 848cc engine, and were coded YDO7. When Aus production started in 68 using the ex-UK tooling the 1098cc engine was fitted from the start, therefore a new code assigned [YDO8] and for the first year it kept the 10" wheels. The upgrade to 13" wheels created YDO18 and survived through 1972 Leyland renaming to production end. "Californian" Moke was trim package aimed towards export markets, but also incorporated 1275cc upgrade and assigned YDO30. So coding means YDO7 = 848cc CKD from UK, YDO8 = 1098cc small wheels, YDO18 = 1098cc big wheels, YDO30 = 1275cc (always big wheels and unique to Californian variant). If 1098cc Californians existed (which is unlikely on present evidence) they would be YDO18. I have seen a very faint reference that there were a few very late Aus Mokes with 998cc but no details or code given - if this is true it might be a late running change to replace the use of the 1098cc - there are parallels with other BMC assembly elsewhere eg final Authi ADO16. Also worth noting that 1098cc versions of any Mini type anywhere in the world are very unusual - Aus seems the only country to have really done it, both for Mokes and their mainstream Clubman-based Minis. The only other examples I can think of were UK Clubman and Clubman Estate 1976-80 (manual only - the automatic stayed with 998cc) which then reverted to 998cc as the 1000HL estate when Clubman saloon stopped. Plus the 1977-80 1100 Special edition (built in Seneffe for UK and Europe). So maybe they stopped all 1098cc production at that point (1980-ish) across the world, forcing the Moke down to 998cc?? Overall, I think we're OK with all Aus Mokes as they are, except we now have the 66-68 CKD assembly as YDO7 to factor in, which threatens the reliability of our YDO8 batch unless we can find visible clues to split them; all our current YDO8 are post-1968 film appearances, and my guess is Aus would have more fully-produced YDO8s than CKD YDO7s, but .... |
2016-02-06 00:44 | ||
| eLMeR | About the model codes, according to The BMC Experience: • 1966-68: No specific code (did the UK/international model have one)? • April 1968 - March 1969: "big-wheel" [YDO8] • April 1969 - 1982: Mk2 Moke (1098cc engine and full-synchro gearbox) [YDO18]. • December 1971 - early 1973 : Special Export 'Californian' Moke [YDO30]. All other Australian Mokes that followed, including the September 1977+ Californian models, were variations of [YDO18]. -- Last edit: 2016-02-06 00:08:45 |
2016-02-05 23:24 | ||
| dsl | Depends who you believe - it seems to have been one of those floating changes which may or may not have really happened, and there are inconsistencies at some points between brochures/adverts compared to grille badging. Another version says 1968-69 YDO8 (10" wheels) was Morris Mini Moke, then everything with 13" wheels was Morris or Leyland Moke [YDO18 and YDO30 for the Leyland-only Californian edition], unless it was the 71+ Morris (export) version which was Mini Moke. I don't think there is a single consistent history, so simplest solution is to keep everything as Mini Moke | 2016-02-05 23:07 | ||
| andrepa | advertised in Australia 1995 http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wiMAAOSwHnFVvBaY/s-l1600.jpg |
2016-02-05 23:04 | ||
| eLMeR | I thought it was just Leyland Moke, without Mini? | 2016-02-05 22:53 | ||
| dsl | Definitely Aus build with bigger wheels than UK, and as far as I can tell, yes - Leyland lights. YDO18 as no obvious Californian trim bits. | 2016-02-05 22:47 | ||
| rjluna2 | Looks like [HK] taillights  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Holden_Monaro_HK_%2817326747656%29.jpg |
2016-02-05 22:36 | ||
| dsl | 1974 grille so YDO25 instead of YDO24 | 2016-02-05 22:32 | ||
| rjluna2 | Looks like Holden Premier front end with Holden Belmont Utility |
2016-02-05 22:00 | ||
simon-a  | Built in Australia then |
2016-02-05 21:53 | ||
| eLMeR | If we're talking about the yellow car in foreground, an Australian built 1966-72 Morris Mini Moke / 1973-81 Leyland Moke? Are these taillamps the ones of the Leyland version? | 2016-02-05 21:33 | ||
jplemoine  | K 75 quéqu'chose? | 2016-02-05 19:50 | ||
| 130rapid | Special Station Sedan. | 2016-02-05 18:32 | ||
karoomay  | 1984-86 rounded turn signals | 2016-02-05 18:32 | ||
| karoomay | 1977-78 turn signals and grille. | 2016-02-05 18:30 | ||
Raji  | C-Series |
2016-02-05 18:10 | ||
Baube  | Probably, before today the only Flying Pigs i knew were the ones in my links... .gif ":)") |
2016-02-05 17:39 | ||
| johnfromstaffs | Introduced in 1933, the Dennis Ace was known as the Flying Pig due to its profile. I think this may somewhat predate the "popular beat combo" to which you make allusion. | 2016-02-05 17:24 | ||
| Baube | Link to "www.echoeshub.com" .gif ";)") or ,if you like better, there is an alternative : https://mcgarnagle.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/vlcsnap-00075.jpg |
2016-02-05 17:18 | ||
| johnfromstaffs | Pink what? | 2016-02-05 17:06 | ||
| Baube | ah... i thought they were listening to Pink Floyd while extinguishing fires... |
2016-02-05 17:02 | ||
| johnfromstaffs | Flying Pig, but I know nothing about the fire engine bits. http://www.dennissociety.org.uk/preserved/fire/ejh129.html -- Last edit: 2016-02-05 16:55:40 |
2016-02-05 16:52 | ||
| eLMeR | Campmobile is more than just "closer to their sales name": it was their accurate sales name, they were directly integrated that way into the van line by VW. Cf. the brochure already linked. | 2016-01-28 17:50 | ||
| tore-40 | Origin and built in should suffice? Another issue is this one is verified as based on a panel/delivery van, and the other two listed as Kombis. This could mean they were all actually based on a cheaper van. But listing as a VW Campmobile regardless of origin, could be closer to the sales name, as they were sold converted by VW. |
2016-01-26 08:28 | ||
| eLMeR | Sopru conversion indeed, but without the front roof rack. @ tore-40: The sales name of these vans was apparently just Campmobile (with Cruser II and Adventurer submodels indeed), i.e. without any reference to Sopru in the documents except in the small notes in the last page of the brochures. Of course, I'd like to find at least another brochure or ad to be sure of it, but that would then be similar to what was made with the US Westfalia versions... CKD + conversion can indeed be seen as an Australian production. But is "made for Australia" relevant? Maybe yes if only sold in the island continent: no such Kombis in New Zeland? ⇒ 1975 Volkswagen Campobile (Model origin: ![[Image: DE.png]](http://www.imcdb.org/res/flags/DE.png "http://www.imcdb.org/res/flags/DE.png") , built in: ![[Image: AU.png]](http://www.imcdb.org/res/flags/AU.png "http://www.imcdb.org/res/flags/AU.png") , made for: ![[Image: AUS.png]](http://www.imcdb.org/res/countries/AUS.png "http://www.imcdb.org/res/countries/AUS.png") )?If that's Ok, I'll change the 2 other Sopru vans present in the IMCDb accordingly. |
2016-01-26 03:00 | ||
| tore-40 | Makes some sense. It's a Sopru camper conversion (sold by VW as original VW campers, Cruiser II or Adventurer) and would be based on a cheaper model (less items to remove, I guess, close to none) so still registered as when it was first assembled. For the registration, it wouldn't be the first time details were wrong. |
2016-01-23 09:21 | ||
| eLMeR | Thanks, MisterZ. So yellow plates mean New South Wales vehicle, when in Australia? @ tore-40: The myRTA says: Could this mean a modified Delivery van? -- Last edit: 2016-01-23 07:07:01 |
2016-01-23 02:38 | ||
| tore-40 | 1975, still CKD assembled down under, name used 'Kombi'? | 2016-01-22 19:40 | ||
| ingo | Ah, thanks - but not a clever naming anyways... |
2016-01-22 19:14 | ||
| MisterZ | It's the name of a real restaurant in Queensland (where this was filmed). But it's Mexican food - so no pizza. Note that the Alto only had 2 seats in Australia - there were no rear seats at all. This was so that the vehicle could be classified as a commercial van, and attract much lower duties (the import duty on passenger cars at the time was over 57%). The one positive of this, however, was that they could be legally parked in loading zones. Equipment was sparse - there were no disc brakes at all, only a manual transmission initially (an automatic was added in 1982), and manual steering. Factory air conditioning was offered as an option, though I imagine the take-up rate would have been low. -- Last edit: 2019-07-26 19:59:05 |
2016-01-22 12:30 | ||
| MisterZ | The plate TBU110 returns 1975 | 2016-01-22 09:29 | ||
| eLMeR | Why 1975? | 2016-01-22 01:10 | ||
| andrepa | 1938 Ford (Marmon-Herrington) Link to "public.fotki.com" unfortunatelly one in link is 4x4 |
2016-01-21 23:43 |
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