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Bux_48  | Very interesting, thank you for the explanation  |
2022-12-28 19:59 | ||
Weasel1984  | It was - it is very strange, but it was named this way in Polish brochure of Pol-Mot, so of company which sold them new in the 1980s. Curiously as "Strada" had to be sold only 2nd series Ritmos, the 1st ones were "Ritmo" and 3rd ones too (I would not exclude that Ritmo II was sold as "Ritmo" for a while too). 1st, I remember I was skeptical, when I was kid, I didn't care to follow badges of these cars ("Ritmo is Ritmo"  ) and also I'm sure there were privately imported "Ritmos II" mixed with "Stradas", but few years ago fuchs found in the web such car for sale and indeed it had "Strada" badge  So this + brochure is already something.What we see on the pic is perhaps some Pol-Mot new cars storage lot in southern Poland, as there is no reg. plates and there are also more Ritmos/Stradas there. -- Last edit: 2022-12-28 19:53:00 |
2022-12-28 18:19 | ||
| Bux_48 | Was it really sold as Strada in Poland? I didn't know that .gif ":)") |
2022-12-28 00:52 | ||
| michal gano77 | Skoda 100 as unmarked radiocar it's very unuasual to see it in use of polish police even during the comunist era. | 2020-10-13 14:42 | ||
| 130rapid | The list (and prices in US dollar) of foreign cars available via Pol-Mot in 1987. http://mbc.malopolska.pl/dlibra/plain-content?id=89342 (page 4). Audi 80 CC 1.6D - 12,850-12,950 (must be 1986 stock) FIAT Uno Super 1.3 Diesel - 6200 Ritmo CL 1.7 Diesel - 6650 Regata Comfort 1.7 Diesel - 7100-7250 Regata Super 1.9 Diesel - 8400 Mazda 626 2.0D - 8000 Mitsubishi Lancer (probably Diesel) - 6950 Galant (probably Diesel) - 9000 Opel Kadett Diesel - 9800-10,350 Ascona Diesel - 11,100-11,750 Senator Diesel - 16,000 (definitely the old stock of [A] 1986 MY) Peugeot 205 GLD - 7900-8050 Renault 5 GTD - 8150-8200 9 GTD - 8350 11 GTD - 8800 Toyota Corolla Diesel - 7000 Carina Diesel - 8200 Volkswagen Jetta (probably D, not quoted) - 11,650-11,800 Golf Diesel - 10,900-10,950 Golf Turbodiesel - 11,950 Also... Fiat 126p 650 FL standard - 1820 (910 + 300,000 zł) Fiat 126p 650 FL export - 1880 (940 + 300,000 zł 1 US dollar / złoty exchange rate - official purchase: 238,51 zł - black market purchase: 920-930 zł (dollar), 920 zł (PeKaO bond equivalent of 1 dollar) - black market sale: 950-960 zł (dollar), 940 zł (PeKaO bond equivalent of 1 dollar). |
2020-03-11 13:42 | ||
| 130rapid | 1975+ aerial on rear wing. | 2018-02-11 17:16 | ||
MZTS  | No, never. MZ TS 250 F. |
2017-06-12 16:18 | ||
Alex347_2  | Harley-Davidson? | 2010-05-08 12:52 | ||
| walter | Yes, it is |
2010-05-03 14:53 | ||
| ingo | @130rapid:  are more Pewex-lists to find, from other years? youngtimer.pl is very interesting, but due my lack of knowledge of Polish I'm quite helpless...You know, I would be interested in the years 1970-75. .gif ";)") -- Last edit: 2010-05-02 22:01:35 |
2010-05-02 22:01 | ||
| ingo | Very faked West German plate. | 2010-05-02 21:57 | ||
| ingo | I would say, it's an Audi 100 [Typ43]. Probably a 5S, due the badge on the grille. Due the orange indicator an early one. | 2010-05-02 21:56 | ||
| electra225 | 1100 S and not 1300 S because on 1,3 it's written at the rear of the side | 2010-04-29 20:53 | ||
929V6  | 1977+ Datsun 180B Wagon [810] | 2010-04-29 17:52 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Good topic with some background, thanks. I've missed it. | 2010-04-29 17:19 | ||
| 130rapid | We have nice sample here: http://www.youngtimer.pl/board/viewtopic.php?id=1911&p=9 |
2010-04-29 17:02 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Also this "Polonez Popular" is interesting. It has to be the one without plastic trim. I have a brochure of Polonez Popular (but didn't know from what year it is) and it looks this way. It means, that they were intro. before the martial law... and only later has been renamed to "C" on domestic market. In one Automobilista article it wasn't very clear, but someone would get impression that such cheap Polonez is a martial law product. -- Last edit: 2010-04-29 16:55:30 |
2010-04-29 16:49 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Strange there is no Volvo. Scan of the 1979 catalog (well part of it from Allegro). (pic lost) Maybe they had some break in Pewex, as later it back for sure. -- Last edit: 2018-10-10 13:33:28 |
2010-04-29 16:47 | ||
| 130rapid | Here you are nice sample - near complete list of cars than you could buy in Poland, for US dollars in 1980 by Pewex network. (Although some cars were approachable only few months or even one month by this year). FIAT 126p 650 Standard - 1550 USD 126p 650 Special - 1620 USD 126p 650 Komfort - 1920 USD 125p ubogi (base) - 2700 USD 125p Standard - 2900 USD 125p Lux - 3270 USD 125p Kombi - 3500 USD 127p (Mk II) - 4200 USD 131p-1600 - 5500 USD 132p-1800 - 6600 USD Ritmo 65L - 5100 USD Citroen CX Super 2000 / Pallas 2400 - 8300 / 9500 USD, Ford Granada 2.0 / 2.3 / 2.1 Diesel - 8300 / 9600 / 9400 USD, Taunus 2.0 - 6550 USD. FSO Polonez 1500 Popular - 3270 USD Polonez 1500 Standard - 3500 USD Polonez 1500 Lux - 3950 USD Lada 1500 (WAZ-2103) - 3650 USD Opel Kadett D 1.3 L (2 door / 4 door) - 5800 / 6100 USD Ascona B 1.9 / 2.0 - 6700 / 6900 USD Rekord E 2.0 - 7700 USD, Commodore 2.5 - 9300 USD Senator 2.8 (!) - 11,400 USD Renault 5 TL / GTL / GTS - 5720 / 6180 / 6800 USD 14 TL - 6730 USD 30 TS (!) - 9400 USD Volkswagen Golf 1100 / 1300 / 1600 Diesel / 1600 Diesel L - 6770 / 7090 / 7400 / 7770 USD Trusty source: http://www.youngtimer.pl/board/viewtopic.php?id=6173 -- Last edit: 2022-12-02 23:17:30 |
2010-04-29 16:39 | ||
| 130rapid | Nope, we never imported Dacia 1100. You could buy Renault 10 in Poland (late 60s), if you had special authority's permission - coupon which magically opened limited-access showrooms - and enough sum of... US dollars. -- Last edit: 2010-04-29 17:17:39 |
2010-04-29 16:06 | ||
| electra225 | Not by Dacia ? | 2010-04-29 15:59 | ||
| 130rapid | We didn't import Yugoslavian FIAT 1300/1500. | 2010-04-29 15:59 | ||
| electra225 | I think by Zastawa | 2010-04-29 15:53 | ||
| walter | This is a 1976 model (last one) | 2010-04-29 14:21 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Datsun or Totyota? | 2010-04-29 14:08 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Ep. 4 ![[*]](/res/star.png){kind=small} :![[Image: 238895-snapshot20100427225621.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238895-snapshot20100427225621.jpg) |
2010-04-29 14:05 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Extra thumbs lost. -- Last edit: 2012-10-01 23:39:59 |
2010-04-29 14:03 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 238884-snapshot20100427225128.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238884-snapshot20100427225128.jpg) Replaced in later scene by car with chromed mirror and without fogs. ![[Image: 238885-snapshot20100427231032.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238885-snapshot20100427231032.jpg) This type of plastic mirror I do not know since when was used in serial production. Similar plastic one was used in some cars since around 1981 too (the scoop is 1981+). The one steered from inside was since 1985. Though it all can depend on trim or factory stockrooms supply. Similar one in ep. 4 :![[Image: 238887-snapshot20100427230657.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238887-snapshot20100427230657.jpg) -- Last edit: 2018-10-05 13:44:39 |
2010-04-29 13:59 | ||
| cl82 | |
2010-04-27 22:24 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Ep. 3 - similar m.y. - and :![[Image: 238564-snapshot20100425000351.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238564-snapshot20100425000351.jpg) ![[Image: 238565-snapshot20100425000415.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238565-snapshot20100425000415.jpg) Ep. 4 MO and Taxi :![[Image: 238795-snapshot20100427231051.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238795-snapshot20100427231051.jpg) ![[Image: 238796-snapshot20100427224012.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238796-snapshot20100427224012.jpg) -- Last edit: 2010-04-28 21:58:58 |
2010-04-27 21:47 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Another rear-engined racer. Used in chase, but replaced by another car when militia started to be too close. | 2010-04-27 21:47 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 238559-snapshot20100424233350.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238559-snapshot20100424233350.jpg) Not easy to say which type of headlamps it has... -- Last edit: 2012-10-01 23:40:10 |
2010-04-27 21:27 | ||
| Weasel1984 | And C-trim seen in ep. 3. Too small unfortunately - :![[Image: 238557-snapshot20100424230039.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238557-snapshot20100424230039.jpg) -- Last edit: 2010-04-27 21:10:23 |
2010-04-27 21:10 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Extra thumbs lost. -- Last edit: 2012-10-01 23:40:32 |
2010-04-27 21:00 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 238527-125p3.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238527-125p3.jpg) ![[Image: 238531-snapshot20100424231103.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238531-snapshot20100424231103.jpg) Different in ep. 2 :![[Image: 238537-snapshot20100424002004.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238537-snapshot20100424002004.jpg) -- Last edit: 2012-10-01 23:40:48 |
2010-04-27 20:54 | ||
| Weasel1984 | And here it is - /vehicle.php?id=298147#Comment726142 |
2010-04-27 20:45 | ||
| Weasel1984 | -- Last edit: 2012-10-01 23:41:07 |
2010-04-27 20:44 | ||
| Jale | ![[Image: doute2.gif]](http://maxfsl.perso.cegetel.net/doute2.gif "http://maxfsl.perso.cegetel.net/doute2.gif") |
2010-04-27 20:34 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 238501-snapshot20100424225637.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238501-snapshot20100424225637.jpg) "Only be careful! Its has an Abarth engine - 36 hp under the feet." And indeed what a beast it was Title of this episode - "Jeździec w ogniu" - "rider on fire" reffers to something different, but fits also here.  ![[Image: 238512-snapshot20100424231049.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238512-snapshot20100424231049.jpg) [The car was too hard to handle for the main character, who, with help of the villains, finally lands in it on the roof: ![[Image: 238508-wyp.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238508-wyp.jpg) -- Last edit: 2012-10-01 23:41:50 |
2010-04-27 20:31 | ||
| cl82 | Great pictures, Weasel! I can't wait for the Scirocco to be listed. | 2010-04-27 20:27 | ||
| Weasel1984 | The second "Silesian" 260 from this series has an all black grill. | 2010-04-27 20:05 | ||
| Jale | Some of them may have the replacement of the original, black grill, but buses like this was quite a lot. Maybe Ikarus lost few aluminium details in 1986/1987 (silver stripe above grill, frames of the doors, rubber stripes on the side instead metal ones) ( http://www.przegubowiec.com/bus/katalog/opis28026.htm ) -- Last edit: 2010-04-27 20:03:59 |
2010-04-27 20:03 | ||
| Weasel1984 | By the way how the "thresholds" are treated and MO livery, I belive a pre-1980's car (with replaced frames of indicators and removed lower side stripes). Edit. First cars in new livery were delivered to Militia in ca 1978. So if the front badge is original (1978), it is one of the last in old colors. By the horns rather PRD than PSK (in MO naming convention). -- Last edit: 2012-04-05 14:47:00 |
2010-04-27 20:02 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 238497-snapshot20100424234900.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238497-snapshot20100424234900.jpg) -- Last edit: 2012-10-01 23:42:02 |
2010-04-27 19:57 | ||
| Weasel1984 | I doubt it is original in bus from the 1990. | 2010-04-27 19:52 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 238492-snapshot20100424234305.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238492-snapshot20100424234305.jpg) Used also in ep. 1 :![[Image: 238494-snapshot20100423222208.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238494-snapshot20100423222208.jpg) And 2 [:![[Image: 238496-snapshot20100424003140.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238496-snapshot20100424003140.jpg) The market of this model perhaps started a bit later - 1982 or early 1983, but no info so as default 1981. Edit: 1982 judging by the period "Motor". -- Last edit: 2012-07-01 18:06:54 |
2010-04-27 19:51 | ||
| Jale | But in Warsaw some 260.04 and 280.26 has silver frames even till nineties. Few examples: http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/displayimage.php?pos=-14948 http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/displayimage.php?pos=-9812 http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/displayimage.php?pos=-1333 http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/displayimage.php?pos=-8968 |
2010-04-27 19:41 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Sure all had, but in the late 1970's it dissapeared. The late 70's 280.11 and 26 from Warsaw already didn't have it. Well, but if it is really an "04", some still had to have it for a while. Maybe it depends on version. | 2010-04-27 19:30 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 238490-snapshot20100424001439.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge23/238490-snapshot20100424001439.jpg) |
2010-04-27 19:23 | ||
| Jale | All Ikaruses had this frame silver. It became black after general renovations. New buses with black frame was from... I don't know, end of eighties? | 2010-04-27 19:22 |
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