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Bux_48  | [SE037], not [SE038] .gif ";)") |
2021-03-18 23:55 | ||
993cc  | Minor correction: it's Piironen. The car was built by Michelotto to Group B specs. These cars were built in 1983 on earlier chassis (1 of the 4 built used the old 2v engine, the other three the 4v QV). This particular car had the 'proper' QV engine (good for 320 hp..) So this I believe should be a 1983 308 GTBi QV Group B or simply a 308 GTB Group B. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Toivonen https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelotto_Automobili Link to "i.pinimg.com" edit: deleted that they were based on QV chassis because they.. weren't as I found out. All 15 Michelotto rally cars (11 Gr.4 + 4 Gr.B) were #18xxx to about #31xxx chassis so 1975-82 cars. BUT they were built as racecars later, the Gr. B versions in 1983. Maybe that is more important. -- Last edit: 2020-04-06 23:58:53 |
2020-04-06 17:01 | ||
Weasel1984  | But Evo 2 debuted one year later in Corsica, so this particular one had to be upgraded to newer version or plate has been moved from different works car. | 2016-11-03 21:30 | ||
Exiv96  | Actually a mid 1984 plate. | 2016-11-03 12:30 | ||
fontheking5  | 037 | 2014-12-05 11:06 | ||
| fontheking5 | 037 | 2014-12-05 11:03 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Fine one. Pocket lawn mower. | 2013-08-10 13:05 | ||
| Weasel1984 | RAC indeed. | 2013-08-10 13:01 | ||
| Weasel1984 | No, it is all what we can see, but I believe it is the same car. | 2013-08-10 13:00 | ||
ingo  | Seen this March on the Techno Classica:![[Image: trxs.th.jpg]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/trxs.jpg/ "http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8152/trxs.th.jpg") ![[Image: wkwm.th.jpg]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/wkwm.jpg/ "http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7135/wkwm.th.jpg") ![[Image: dfix.th.jpg]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/dfix.jpg/ "http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7403/dfix.th.jpg") The photo with the "sold" tape is 1 1/2 hours older than the third pic, where this tape is missing... |
2013-08-10 00:10 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Small regroupment according to chassis numbers: Toivonen/Piironen. Portugal '84 - new car - chassis #402 - info: ![[Image: 203784portugal841.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/203784portugal841.jpg) ![[Image: 203784portugal843.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/203784portugal843.jpg) ![[Image: 203784portugal842.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/203784portugal842.jpg) Acropolis '84 - chassis #402 again: ![[Image: 203784acro841.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/203784acro841.jpg) ![[Image: 203784acro842.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/203784acro842.jpg) ![[Image: 203784acro843.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/203784acro843.jpg) 1000 Lakes '84 - chassis #408 - info: ![[Image: 2037841000lakes2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/2037841000lakes2.jpg) ![[Image: 2037841000lakes4.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/2037841000lakes4.jpg) ![[Image: 2037841000lakes6.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/2037841000lakes6.jpg) ![[Image: 2037841000lakes3.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/2037841000lakes3.jpg) And other "037" Evo 2 or cutomized to look alike ![[*]](/res/star.png){kind=small} :At the Costa Smeralda Rally '85: ![[Image: cs852.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/cs852.jpg) And of the Jolly Club at the Rally of Sanremo '85: ![[Image: jcttsanremo851.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/jcttsanremo851.jpg) ![[Image: jcttsanremo852.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/jcttsanremo852.jpg) -- Last edit: 2013-08-10 18:34:55 |
2013-08-09 21:18 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Sounds logic. I was missled by the fact, that it was written only next to the Avengers at one results list. |
2013-08-09 21:12 | ||
dsl  | No record in rally entry lists with number 53. | 2013-08-09 11:48 | ||
| electra225 | CL trim for the Panorama that, having Italian plate, can only be 1100 cc. Neon is right about the Ritmo. -- Last edit: 2013-08-09 09:03:07 |
2013-08-09 09:02 | ||
| dsl | I'd guess 3.0 SC, which is description on some results sites. #21, Group 4, retired - entered by Crys-Auto Oy (who had entered Toivonen's Avenger in 1977). -- Last edit: 2013-08-09 11:47:11 |
2013-08-09 02:55 | ||
| dsl | Is the driver identified?? Mikkola's car on same event was /vehicle_56983-Ford-Escort-RS-1800-1979.html . | 2013-08-09 02:42 | ||
| dsl | Executive rear badge (probably). Brighton sea front?? (so RAC Rally footage??) | 2013-08-09 02:37 | ||
| dsl | G1 probably = Group 1 so fairly standard to a homologated spec. But this is intriguing as a 2 door with the newer Chrysler trim, which I don't think had a boyracer production version (like the previous Hillman 1600cc GT 2 door did). There were a couple of experimental works specs at the time such as an Avenger BRM (ie BRM-tuned UK engine) and versions built around the 1800cc and 2000cc Brazilian blocks, but am unsure if these could fit Group 1. But homolgated specs can create some unexpected combinations, so I'll see if I can dig further. Also the red livery is unusual - maybe a local car, not works?? Another possibility is 1300cc for lower class group - there was an export 1300 GT in some countries. #25, finished 5th, Group 1 winner. Also listed as a Sunbeam on some results sites - seems there were a few Avengers in the rally interchangeably recorded as Sunbeam or Chrysler. -- Last edit: 2013-08-10 02:37:47 |
2013-08-09 02:35 | ||
| Neon | 105 or 125 TC Ritmo behind it | 2013-08-09 00:21 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 00f.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/00f.jpg) ![[Image: 00.79.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/00.79.jpg) Info IMPDb entry Finally I get the complete copy of this documentary, so after 7 years the page has been updated = quite many new/missing cars have been added and all old pics have been replaced by the better quality ones.Like you can see in the 1st link above, origins of this documentary are Italian, but it looks like the final shape with commentary etc. it got in Great Britain (previously those were just footages it seems). Just in case, I put the Italian title as alternative (well a part of it). -- Last edit: 2013-08-09 00:10:49 |
2013-08-08 23:52 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Toivonen/Gallagher. Portugal '82 (also main pic - please refresh): ![[Image: ascona40portugal822.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/ascona40portugal822.jpg) ![[Image: ascona40portugal821.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/ascona40portugal821.jpg) Acropolis '82: ![[Image: adcona400acro821.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/adcona400acro821.jpg) 1000 Lakes '82: ![[Image: ascoan400-1000l821.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/ascoan400-1000l821.jpg) ![[Image: ascoan400-1000l822.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/ascoan400-1000l822.jpg) Sanremo '82 and RAC '82: ![[Image: asciona400sanremo82.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/asciona400sanremo82.jpg) ![[Image: ascona400rac82.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/ascona400rac82.jpg) RMC '83: ![[Image: ascona400rmc832.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/ascona400rmc832.jpg) ![[Image: ascona400rmc831.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/ascona400rmc831.jpg) |
2013-08-08 21:50 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Toivonen/Gallagher. Acropolis '83: ![[Image: manta83acro1.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta83acro1.jpg) ![[Image: manta83acro2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta83acro2.jpg) 1000 Lakes '83 (also main pic): ![[Image: manta4001000lakes832.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta4001000lakes832.jpg) ![[Image: manta4001000lakes833.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta4001000lakes833.jpg) ![[Image: manta4001000lakes834.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta4001000lakes834.jpg) Lombard RAC '83: ![[Image: manta83rac.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta83rac.jpg) |
2013-08-08 21:44 | ||
| Weasel1984 | 1982 "1000 Pistes" what seems to be its first rally.![[Image: manta400821.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta400821.jpg) ![[Image: manta400823.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta400823.jpg) ![[Image: manta400822.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/manta400822.jpg) |
2013-08-08 21:39 | ||
| Weasel1984 | RMC '83, looks like #7 = Andruet/Espinosi-Petit. Edit: Car with chassis #304 - one of the 3 brand new cars built for the 1983 RMC (and later events) - interesting infos. -- Last edit: 2013-08-10 18:34:10 |
2013-08-08 21:36 | ||
| Weasel1984 | 1978 edition, Toivonen/Paajanen. Seems it was "works" car, not sure since which year they used these... |
2013-08-08 21:27 | ||
| Weasel1984 | In Greece, which seems to had them since ca 1979/80. | 2013-08-08 21:20 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Of the Chardonnet. 1980 edition. -- Last edit: 2013-08-08 21:16:02 |
2013-08-08 21:15 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Sanremo '85, Röhl/Geistdörfer.![[Image: sports185sanremo2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/sports185sanremo2.jpg) |
2013-08-08 21:07 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Toivonen/Paajanen, 1979 1000 Lakes.![[Image: abarth131762.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/abarth131762.jpg) |
2013-08-08 21:02 | ||
| Weasel1984 | During the 1984 Rally of Portugal. | 2013-08-08 20:59 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Lombard RAC 1980. | 2013-08-08 20:54 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Acropolis '82. Disqualified for the wrong way driving. Some Ursuses were assembled (or just imported) and sold in Greece under the Ursus-Hellas brand, not sure however if all of them and in what period exactly. |
2013-08-08 20:47 | ||
| Weasel1984 | TdC '86. Chatriot/Périn - finally at 2nd place after the Lancia's withdrawal. | 2013-08-08 20:44 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Acropolis 1982, car of the Mouton/Pons duo. And very "civilian" coupe seen in 1986 (TdC) :![[Image: audicoupe.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/audicoupe.jpg) |
2013-08-08 20:42 | ||
| Weasel1984 | RMC '85, Saby/Fauchille. | 2013-08-08 20:37 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 308gtbsnamarino833.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/308gtbsnamarino833.jpg) Toivonen/Pironen, San Marino '83. |
2013-08-08 20:34 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Costa Smeralda '84 (also main pic):![[Image: 911cs842.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/911cs842.jpg) ![[Image: 911cs843.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/911cs843.jpg) ![[Image: 911cs845.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/911cs845.jpg) ![[Image: 911cs844.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/911cs844.jpg) Costa Brava, the same year: ![[Image: 911cb84.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/911cb84.jpg) Toivonen/Pironen. |
2013-08-08 20:32 | ||
| Weasel1984 | Alen/Kivamaki. They show this in film as a random footage, but in fact it is very early S4 with different spoilers, seen during its first pre-WRC rally of the "1000 Pistes". Seems it wasn't even homologated yet. |
2013-08-08 20:26 | ||
| Weasel1984 | RMC '85. Blomqvist/Cederberg.![[Image: sqrmc851.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/sqrmc851.jpg) Car of the same type is also visible at the 1985 Costa Smeralda footage :![[Image: sqcs85.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/sqcs85.jpg) -- Last edit: 2013-08-08 21:22:07 |
2013-08-08 20:17 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: avenger771000l3.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/avenger771000l3.jpg) ![[Image: avenger771000l2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/avenger771000l2.jpg) 1977 1000 Lakes, Toivonen/Lindquist. Some sources say "Avenger G1"(?)... |
2013-08-08 20:08 | ||
| Weasel1984 | TdC '86.![[Image: mgtdc2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/mgtdc2.jpg) Also a "civilian" MiniMetro, seen in 1982 :![[Image: minimetro.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/minimetro.jpg) -- Last edit: 2013-08-08 20:13:55 |
2013-08-08 20:04 | ||
| Weasel1984 | ![[Image: 205evo22.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/205evo22.jpg) |
2013-08-08 20:02 | ||
| Weasel1984 | It is visible at the 1978 RAC. | 2013-08-08 19:58 | ||
| Weasel1984 | RMC '81 - main pic updated - please refresh.![[Image: datsunrmc811.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/1306/datsunrmc811.jpg) |
2013-08-08 19:57 | ||
| Weasel1984 | This have to be a rather rare "GLS Sepcial" - British twin of the "Jubilee" offered in 1979 only. | 2013-08-08 19:55 | ||
| dsl | Probably a Ti, not a Lotus. | 2010-09-25 02:43 | ||
| dsl | Agree this is probably a Ti, not Lotus. | 2010-09-25 02:30 | ||
peekay64  | I think the official designation for this particular Rallycar is the 953 | 2007-08-15 11:42 | ||
keef  | lc8 | 2007-06-30 14:12 | ||
| datsunZ | 1983 World Rally Champion |
2006-12-31 01:10 |
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