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1970 Leyland 5-60F 5-Ton [FG]

1970 Leyland 5-60F [FG] in Bluey, TV Series, 1976-1977 IMDB Ep. 20

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: UK — Built in: AU — Made for: AUS

1970 Leyland 5-60F 5-Ton [FG]

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the sad biker UK

◊ 2016-10-29 18:46

 It looks like the long-nose Morris FM version of the Austin/Morris/BMC/Leyland FG

Sunbar UK

◊ 2016-10-29 18:51

 1963-1970 Austin (also Morris and later BMC) FG K100 5-Ton, the round sidelights from about 1967.

Sunbar UK

◊ 2016-10-29 19:02
the sad biker wrote It looks like the long-nose Morris FM version of the Austin/Morris/BMC/Leyland FG


Here in the FG K100 the 6-cylinder petrol or diesel engines were used in the 5-tonner, and the extra length required the addition of a "snout".

The Morris FM K40 was specific to PO telephones with an even longer snout for the three-seater cab, and the 4-cylinder engine moved forwards.

-- Last edit: 2016-10-29 19:20:57

dsl SX

◊ 2016-10-29 21:15

 Aus build for long-nose was known as Leyland FM 4.60, 4.80, 5.60 and 5.80 - came as 4 or 5 ton and with 160" or 180" wheelbases, which explains the numbers, and 3993cc petrol or 5665cc diesel. My book says 1961-68 (but that seems too early a start date??) and a small picture shows the round sidelights

Sunbar UK

◊ 2016-10-29 21:49

 Start date of 1961 would be possible if Australian production was in advance of UK, which was itself delayed (for what reason I don't know). Design was complete and the tooling would potentially be available. The 5-tonner FG was introduced at the time of the Scottish Motor Show in November 1961, but it only went into full production during 1963, after I believe the transfer of FG trucks from Birmingham to Bathgate.

Interesting also that Australian Leylands were known as the FM? I guess they adopted their own naming or alternatively BMC in the UK decided to remain with FG and only use FM for the post office application.

Googled photos show rectangular sidelights upto about E reg UK vehicles then round replacements - again Australia could be different but I had the idea that I have seen similar rectangular sidelights on Australian builds?

edit: sidelights here on this truck, I think do look different compared to UK possibly smaller...

-- Last edit: 2016-10-29 21:52:07

dsl SX

◊ 2016-10-29 23:49

 I'm not saying my book is totally bulletproof, but it seems the best source we've got so far on what Aus did. It shows the FG as well, initially as Austin then Leyland during 1960-68, apparently just like UK models (2 or 3 ton, 145" wheelbase only). My uncertainty about start date was more the apparent branding of the FM as only Leyland, as the BLMC merger in UK was 1968, so no obvious reason for Aus to use Leyland make on BMC product before that point.

Sandie SX

◊ 2016-10-29 23:58

 This (supposedly Australian) brochure has FG:
[Image: fg.jpg]

dsl SX

◊ 2016-10-30 00:41

 from ^ description
Quote These are two A4 sized two colour 6 page sales brochure folders for the 1970 Leyland FG Series 4 and 5 Ton Trucks for the Australian market. Printed by the British Leyland Motor Corporation of Australia in March and April 1970. One shows the Cab/Chassis with a tray, the other is the Chassis Scuttle and shows various suggestions for bodies, such as buses, Vans, Long Johns or Pantechnicon etc. They were originally badged as Austin, then BMC in 1969 and then Leyland after about 1970 and some markets also used the Morris name. Engine used was the BMC 4.0 Litre Petrol or the 5.7 Litre Diesel and the wheelbase was either 160 or 180 inches. 4/60F means it is a 4 Tonner with 160 inch wheelbase and 5/80F a 5 Tonner with 180 inch wheelbase.

Covers the following models: 1970 Leyland FG Series 4 or 5 Ton Trucks.


So alongside my book info, 1970+ Leyland FG also seems to fit what's visible here.

Sunbar UK

◊ 2016-10-30 11:42

 So looking again at the relationship between Australian and UK FG models they seem similar in branding - 1970 Leyland FG would be a reasonable identification (although earlier Austin or Morris also possible).

Australian cabs appear to have extra vents; tropical cooling mod, either side of the 'snout' and an extra nameplate just before the door (similar to other Australian Austin FF models).

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