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1974 Volkswagen Campmobile T2 [Typ 2]

1974 Volkswagen Campmobile T2 [Typ 2] in Cybernator, Movie, 1991 IMDB

Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin: DE — Made for: USA

1974 Volkswagen Campmobile T2 [Typ 2]

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rjluna2 US

2015-08-26 13:47

1974-79 Volkswagen Camper Westfalia.

electra225 IT

2015-08-26 15:35

...Parhaps called Campmobile in the U.S. ?

-- Last edit: 2015-08-26 15:35:58

eLMeR MH

2015-08-26 17:05

The 3-louver door window makes it a Campmobile indeed. VW apparently mostly used this name for the camper models of this generation, although some T2a factory conversions without the louvered windows are indeed called Camper only.

With the 1974+ Pop-Up Top option (the 1973 similar model had a different opening), although the 1974+ model year is already given here by the fuel filler round cap.
According to samba.com, the Westfalia stuff (including therefore the pop-up roof on concerned models) was standard for the Campmobile T2 models. So is it worth mentioning it?

-- Last edit: 2015-08-26 17:10:02

rjluna2 US

2015-08-26 20:28

The 'Westfalia' script is clearly described at the pop-up box. So, indeed it is from the Westfalia conversion has been carried out.

tore-40 NO

2015-08-26 20:37

Even if other sources may not agree 1974 offered no Sage Green. Closest Campmobiles were Yosemite Yellow. Missing info on 1975, my guess is they were also Yosemite Yellow (last year for this color).

Based on brochures verifying the color Sage Green, it could be a 1976-78 Pop-Up Top Campmobile or a 1978-79 De Luxe Campmobile. Usually not listed as Standard, Pop-Up Top or Deluxe, but a shot of the lefthand side could tell.

List as 1976 VW Campmobile Westfalia?

eLMeR MH

2015-08-27 20:50

@ the admin who changed the identification back to Camper 'Westfalia' without saying why:
1- Not a Camper but a Campmobile, at least in USA and Canada. See explanations and links above;
2- All Campmobiles with the Pop-Up Top option had a Westfalia roof and equipment. So if we aim for accuracy and want an option to be written, it should be Pop-Up Top or Deluxe as in VW literature, where the Westfalia name doesn't even appear.
The Westfalia complement should in fact only be used for the T1 models, for which the Westfalia conversion was not sold "direct from the factory" by VW.

[Image: 1961vwcamperwestfaliabrochurecover.jpg]
(1960 brochure cover)

[Image: 1974uscampmobilebrochurecover.jpg] [Image: 1979uscampmobilebrochurecover.jpg]
(1974 and 1979 US brochure covers)

@ tore-40:
Don't forget we're talking about a 15- to 17-year old van (the movie was released in 1991). I'm not sure that the color can be used as a reliable clue for a vehicle of that age.
And if you mean "in the IMCDb" when saying Usually not listed as Standard, Pop-Up Top or Deluxe, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be ;)

-- Last edit: 2015-08-27 21:01:44

tore-40 NO

2015-08-28 03:55

eLMeR wrote /vw/archives/lit/79westy.php]1979[/url] US brochure covers)[/i]

@ tore-40:
....when saying Usually not listed as Standard, Pop-Up Top or Deluxe, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be ;)


My point exactly. But sometimes, like here, hard to tell the sub-types Pop-Up Top fom the Deluxe. A generic name would be 'safer' for most admins to validate

tore-40 NO

2015-08-28 04:27

eLMeR wrote ....as in VW literature, where the Westfalia name doesn't even appear.

Westfalia is used, as in the U.S. owner's manuals, others even more obvious.

eLMeR MH

2015-08-29 00:31

The first link shows indeed the back cover of a manual labeled... Volkswagen Campmobile, without any other mention to Westfalia in it than this logo. This can hardly be seen as an intense promotion :D
2nd link leads to a document aimed to the French market, so it shouldn't be used here as we're talking about US vans :)

tore-40 wrote [...]But sometimes, like here, hard to tell the sub-types Pop-Up Top fom the Deluxe.

There is no way to tell one option over the other from the outside: the difference is just a refrigerator instead of an icebox and some other small stuff like that inside the van. But my point is just to say that these names are the ones of the real options.
Westfalia equipment is not just an added roof: it's above all a camping equipment (as clearly visible when reading a Westaflia price list for the T1 models) and thus also used for the basic "non-roofed" Campmobile (a.k.a. P-21), which also appears in "your" manual with the Westfalia logo.

tore-40 wrote A generic name would be 'safer' for most admins to validate

I don't see any problem here, except maybe due to the habits of some of us (including mine until I made these researches ;) ). Campmobile means "camper with Westfalia equipment" for the 1968+ US models, even when the concerned vans don't have the Pop-Up Top option.
Using that name as complement is just a redundant info, the same way identifying a Chevrolet K-10 as "K-10 '½-ton 4x4'" in the database would be useless. Feel free to use here any example of repetitive information you know and that shouldn't appear in an accurate identification ;)

-- Last edit: 2015-08-29 00:42:34

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