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1960 Commer 1500 Series 1 [FC] 
Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin: 
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◊ 2014-01-27 19:12 |
This horrible heap of misery was in production for so long under so many names that I'll choose the earliest and say PA. |
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◊ 2014-01-28 11:34 |
@johnfromstaff: Excuse someone who has no experience with those vans, but why "horrible heap of misery"? As it was in production for such a long time (1960-82) someone, apart from the Post Office, must have liked it. Why was it so bad? |
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◊ 2014-01-28 11:59 |
1960-1 Commer 1500 Series 1, no external grille only two later three, as here, chrome strips and above the strips there was a simple red Commer badge, also single clear side/turn lights. Its generally shown on websites that [PA] was first applied as the Series III when the engine was changed to the 1725cc unit. Previous to that the van was simlpy the Commer 1500 Forard Control van on manuals and literature I believe, although the [FC] 'chassis code' was probably only used later to differenciate it from the PA/PB versions. |
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◊ 2014-01-28 12:06 |
... I never actually used one but they certainly never impressed with their enclosed road-wheel narrow track design and I would far rather drive a Bedford CA van. Only now do they have a rather quirky attraction for me in a similar way to the long running Leyland Sherpa-LDV vans that lived on far longer than they should have done (supported no doubt by government - Post Office contracts). And yes, the Post office/British Telecom bulk orders were almost the sole reason for their continued existance beyond the late 1960s. The Ford Transit and Bedford CF introduction made them almost unsalable to most other customers. -- Last edit: 2014-01-28 12:22:22 |
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◊ 2014-01-28 13:06 |
It was in production for a long time because it was cheap. It was cheap because it was in production for a long time. (Amortisation of design, tooling and set-up costs over a long period and a relatively high production.) To be fair, the engine was pretty bomb-proof but the rest wasn't. My friend's Dad had one for his firm, he bought it on price and not performance, it was going rusty the minute he got it. Nobody ever wanted to drive it but fortunately it only did short journeys. As has been said, the Transit and the CF killed it, even BMC realised that the narrow front track and sitting above the front wheels design was flawed, killing the J2/A152 design and replacing it with the JU and later the Sherpa. |
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