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1959 VgTZ 2P16 'Luna'

1959 VgTZ 2P16 in The Looking Glass War, Movie, 1969 IMDB

Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: SU

1959 VgTZ 2P16 'Luna'

Position 00:22:55 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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dsl SX

2014-01-24 18:48

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[Image: 22-29rocketlauncher.jpg] [Image: 22-55rocketlauncherc901.jpg]

[Image: 22-55rocketlauncherd901.jpg]
Probably stock footage. Bigger rocket and probably vehicle than /vehicle.php?id=669199 and different rocket cradle.

mike962

2014-01-24 18:58

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if this is soviet footage then it's quite easy

it's one of the so called GM chassis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_chassis

mike962

2014-01-24 19:00

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and here looks to be same chassis with 6 wheels , given the date it looks to be an early GM chassie produced by MTZ
https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-15-img005.jpg

3loader RU

2014-01-24 20:23

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Id said it based on PT-76 swimming tank

http://russianarms.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=2566

Depends on rocket it could be 2P1 or 2P2

Other launcher in the movie for me looks the same one.

-- Last edit: 2014-01-24 20:32:56

mike962

2014-01-24 20:37

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3loader wrote Id said it based on PT-76 swimming tank

http://russianarms.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=2566

Depends on rocket it could be 2P1 or 2P2

Other launcher in the movie for me looks the same one.

you are right !!!

but see at soviet variants bellow


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT-76#Soviet_Union

GM-568 - Chassis used for the 1S91 guidance vehicle of 2K12 Kub surface-to-air missile system. It uses some elements from the PT-76 including the drive train and wheels. It's nearly identical to the GM-578 chassis.[30]
GM-575 - Chassis used for the ZSU-23-4 self-propelled anti-aircraft gun. It uses a number of components from PT-76.
GM-578 Chassis used for the 2P25 launch vehicle 2K12 Kub surface-to-air missile system. It uses some elements from the PT-76 including the drive train and wheels. It's nearly identical to the GM-568 chassis


which confirms my GM series idea

all of them were done by MMZ

-- Last edit: 2014-01-24 20:39:06

3loader RU

2014-01-24 20:42

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Due this page http://vadimvswar.narod.ru/ALL_OUT/TiVOut0809/Sh76/Sh76003.htm maker is STZ/VgTZ

mike962

2014-01-24 20:44

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3loader wrote Due this page http://vadimvswar.narod.ru/ALL_OUT/TiVOut0809/Sh76/Sh76003.htm maker is STZ/VgTZ

hmm

so VgTZ did the whole assembly (including the rocket) while MMZ just the actual tracked vehicle I assume ??

I assume you can name the other one too or perhaps MERGE since they may be the same

3loader RU

2014-01-24 20:46

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VgTZ is more profiled on chassis MMZ probably rocket makers i think.

dsl SX

2014-01-24 20:49

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mike962 wrote ... or perhaps MERGE since they may be the same

If they are definitely the same vehicle make and model they can be merged. But note that the rockets and the rocket cradles are different mountings.

mike962

2014-01-24 20:52

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3loader wrote VgTZ is more profiled on chassis MMZ probably rocket makers i think.

well that's how I understood it

Quote GM (Russian: Gusenichnaya Machina, Гусеничная машина, lit. tracked machine) is a series of tracked vehicle chassis. Generally, the series is produced by Metrovagonmash (former Mytyschinskiy Mashinostroitelniy Zavod, MMZ), part of the Transmashholding since 2002. Some older series were developed and produced by Minsk Tractor Works (MTZ)

3loader RU

2014-01-24 21:03

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Damn... They both could...

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