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1973 Polski Fiat 126p [126A]

1973 Polski Fiat 126p [126A] in Nie ma mocnych, Movie, 1974 IMDB

Class: Cars, Supermini — Model origin: IT — Made for: PL

1973 Polski Fiat 126p [126A]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

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Weasel1984 PL

2013-06-06 19:53

[Image: pf126p1.jpg] [Image: pf126p2.jpg] [Image: pf126p3.jpg]
Exactly 40 years ago - on 6 June 1973 - the first PF 126p left the assembly line of the FSM plant.
Pictures to this film were taken in 1973 and it had to be one of the very first, if not the first, film's role of this model. The visible version is however so early, that it even isn't yet a Polish made one. By the details like white indicators, lack of mudflaps, it most possibly is a car from the "information series", built completly in Italy. These vehicles were delivered to Poland around November 1972 and then were used as promo "show cars" across the country and abroad.

If the frame around the side repeater is really chromed, it is interesting detail too, as something like that was not used in the mass produced cars (both Polish and Italian ones).

Also the older/bigger brother [*]:
[Image: pf125p.jpg]

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electra225 IT

2013-06-06 21:26

Dear Weasel1984,
in march 1973 my mother bought an italian Fiat 126 in this colour (Fiat red code 127). We actually had bought a green one in january 1973 that ha been completely destroyed in a car crash on January the 17th (a wednesday I will never forget). We were not seriously injured but the shock was hard (I was almost 12 years old). This second (and luckyer) red Fiat 126 had another difference: the interior was tan (and not red as it looks in this picture) and a tan interior was the only possibilty for this exeterior colour (not for the other lighter "Coral red" code 165, which could be ordered with a black or a tan interior.

130rapid PL

2013-06-06 21:39

Another photo with better view of side indicator.

130rapid PL

2013-06-06 21:41

Note fuel cap without locker. :sun:

Ingo DE

2013-06-06 21:46

Was this side indicator identical with annother models? Maybe an usual Fiat-part? I remember, that I've found, when I was a kid, such a round side indicatore with a chrome ring around on the street. Of course I've picked it up :whistle:
Recently IMCDb has helped me with the identifying annother car-part, found in the days of childhood. It was the broken part of a taillight, looking like from a Renault 4 - but the top round indicator lense was orange, not red as R4-typical. Unfortunately I forgot again, from which car this splinter was.
One of the several finds has survived until today. A Kadett B-hupcap, I've found in the mud behind my Kindergarten. I was 5 back then :)

Ingo DE

2013-06-06 21:47

130rapid wrote Note fuel cap without locker. :sun:

Pre-production part or poverty-spec version? At Volkswagen you had to pay for a lockable fuel cap extra money, until far into the 70ies...

Weasel1984 PL

2013-06-06 21:53

@electra - please take into consideration however, that it most possibly wasn't a regular car, but the one prepared for a more special purpose, hence might differ from the cars commercially available. The upholstery of the Polish 126ps was usually greyish/beige.
Of course my first thought was - one of the first Polish made cars - assembled with Italian parts still. But then I looked through the already listed pics and it seems that Polish made ones had amber indicators since begining - like this vehicle - number 7: /vehicle_348853-Polski-Fiat-126p-126A-1973.html
BTW. Glad you survived the accident, rear engined cars might look scary after the crash (especially the frontal one).

@rapid - didn't expect this side indicator to be so strange!

@ingo - till 1977, 126ps were only in the "poverty spec" version. Though for the early 126ps the most typical was the metal/silver locked cap.

-- Last edit: 2013-06-06 22:28:26

130rapid PL

2013-06-06 22:06

Ingo has been catched the good trace. These indicators came from Fiat 500R, I suppose. :think: However early Italian 126 had oval lamps. :O :think:

Weasel1984 PL

2013-06-06 22:09

These mass produced. In fact many of these delivered in the mentioned series to PL had to had the ordianry ones too.
In case of 126(and p) repeater, always irritated me the 1/43 Politoys model (and its clone from our Estetyka), which had it in wrong place: http://www.artmediacaddtp.pl/pepe/Politoys_126_12.jpg

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Ingo DE

2013-06-06 22:12

I remember one Fiat 126 (red, inside light beige), the mother of my sister's friend had. When I was 12 years old, I sat in it and have thought "Hey, it fits exactly to me. I can reach the pedals and all switches nd handles, I have a perfect overlook, everything exactly my measures". But I grew on as a teenager. And after 30 I became fatter, so the 126 is not my car any more...
IIRC this 126 was an early Italian made one. The lady owned it already in 1974. It had the old "ALF"-plates - such details I remember well :)

130rapid PL

2013-06-06 22:44

Italian made, pre-series 126p were strange.
First prospect sheet -> front indicators with clear lenses, silver fuel cap with locker.
December 1972 street show in Gdansk. Italian fuel cap without locker.
Same car? Note the absence of 'Licencja FIAT' badge on rear fender.
Another photo with clear lenses. Probably 'MTT Poznań' in May 1973.

Weasel1984 PL

2013-06-06 22:49

The very first pic can be even a Fiat 126 with badge changed in retouch. For sure such trick have been done in case of picture taken with similar background, but with car visible from the back. Look the "silver" cap has same shape like tha black one, IMHO it is white plastic or pic is colorized somehow.
To me all Italian 126ps didn't have the badge "Licencja Fiat" - quite many pics of these cars is in the book of Z. Podbielski - they dont have it. On the other hand, not every Polish made 126p had it too.

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Ingo DE

2013-06-06 22:49

130rapid wrote First prospect sheet ->

:no: The over 20 years old-car-experience had teached me one very important point: NEVER EVER trust prospect- and brochure-pics! Not even a little bit!! :no: It's always the most terrible cobblework, with more retouching an re-paintings than in official photos from communist regimes.

130rapid PL

2013-06-06 22:59

Yes, I know that. Let's see here.
Compare first 1968 (no. 77660) and first 1969 (no. 77662) brochures. :P
The 1969 is the perfect sample of fauxtography. :sun:

Ingo DE

2013-06-06 23:07

@130rapid: unfortunately you weren't able to visit me until now. I can offer a comprehensive collection of worst car-brochure-picture-cobblework-shit :D
Volkswagen was worst about that.

Janek PL

2013-06-07 11:15

@weasel84: we also have similar one in Czterdziestolatek (ep.02) /vehicle_77258-Polski-Fiat-126p-126A-1973.html
Quote early one, made with use of the italian parts (or even Italian made)

Weasel1984 PL

2013-06-07 14:24

I know - I wrote this there. :)

electra225 IT

2013-06-07 18:49

I remember that many Italian preproduction Fiat 126s had a round side indicator in a different part of the front fender, just at the edge with the front edge (like on the Fiat 500 and 127 series I)

Weasel1984 PL

2013-06-07 23:50

So perhaps it was exactly, like in the mentioned scale models (toys).

Ingo DE

2013-08-31 15:49

:hello: anyone here for the marvellous by-catch, I made today on a local spare parts market? It may delight your spouses, too, to have such a collectible for decoration :D (it's for hanging on the wall)

[Image: dh2a.th.jpg]

Weasel1984 PL

2013-08-31 15:52

Christ. :D Any more background infos? Was it promo for the DDR?

Ingo DE

2013-08-31 15:59

Sorry, no more informations. I bought it from an old, slightly peculiar old man together with an ash-tray from an AUDI-NSU-dealer. I negotiated both to "make the price" for the ash-tray "rounder".
No, there were never any promo-things for the DDR-market, especially not from import-brands, either Western or COMECON. I think, it's directly from Poland. (the brand is "Tulowice")

130rapid PL

2013-09-06 20:41

Nice little gift for tiny VIP. :P
The most important VIPs (imperative for 126p factory weal) got whole cars. :sun:

130rapid PL

2013-09-06 20:46

Ingo, you have frozen 15-20 euros in this nice clay 'saucerette'. :D

Ingo DE

2013-09-06 21:20

Oh no, much less, not for such fun-purchases (if you would do so on these markets, you would need thousands of Euros and a trailer for the transport later on ;) ) In fact it was nearly for free as I bought as main item this ash-tray for a NSU-fellow. After some discussion I got both items for the ash-tray-price.

[Image: bbaf.th.jpg]

(from cl82-territory, maybe he knows the dealer :D )

-- Last edit: 2013-09-06 21:20:57

Ingo DE

2013-09-06 21:36

P.S. A propos "these markets": will you be somehow able to come over the that weekend: http://www.veterama.de/en/home ? I told you several times, that these events are an absolute must for people like you (no: like us) :o

@the others: :hello: anyone else planning to go there? @DAF555? @andrepa? @cl82? @Ralph?

cl82 DE

2013-09-08 21:50

@ingo: Sorry, not this year. Too much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSrdHdxHl3U this October-unfortunately. As far the dealership on the ash-tray is concerned: There used to be quite a lot of smaller VW/Audi dealerships in HN (and is surroundings) up to the 1990s, but most of them didn't survive. The one shown on your picture is one of them.

Ingo DE

2013-09-08 23:28

Oh, that's sad, that you cannot spend any time for that. Maybe next year.

They very most smaller family-owned VW/Audi-dealers extinct in the mid-90ies. When I moved to Dortmund in 1994, there was more than a dozen of them in town. Nowadays there are just two left. One independent and one large one, which as absorbed the biggest of the former dozen as dependances.
Where I live know, on the countryside besides the Ruhr area, a few of these family-owned dealerships have survived. But the majority is gone.
Have a look in old dealer-lists from the 70ies and you will be astonished, where all dealerships had been...

Ingo DE

2014-10-06 20:23

ingo wrote P.S. A propos "these markets": will you be somehow able to come over the that weekend: http://www.veterama.de/en/home ? I told you several times, that these events are an absolute must for people like you (no: like us) :o

@the others: :hello: anyone else planning to go there? @DAF555? @andrepa? @cl82? @Ralph?


*carrying up*

cl82 DE

2014-10-07 06:08

Yes, I know. :whistle: I already have a bad conscience, but each year something gets in between my plans.

antp BE

2014-10-07 16:32

ingo wrote

*carrying up*

Use the forum :p

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