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1947 Beadle Bedford 
Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: 
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◊ 2013-02-04 12:01 |
![[Image: bb2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/4290/bb2.jpg) |
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◊ 2013-02-04 15:42 |
Albion Viking. |
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◊ 2015-06-10 22:12 |
No, this is a Beadle Bedford. This scene is filmed at Macau... Left side of the bus. http://www.sct61.org.uk/eccb829 Right side of the bus: http://www.sct61.org.uk/en165 There is only "Beadle Commer" in the manufacturer "makes" category. Please add "Beadle Bedford" in category manufacturer "makes"... -- Last edit: 2015-06-10 22:13:34 |
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◊ 2017-04-14 14:38 |
What is Beadle? If it is the coach builder, I'm not sure it should be listed with Commer/Bedford as model names... Usually we list either the chassis or the body as make+model, and the other one as extra info. |
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◊ 2017-04-14 15:09 |
It's an odd one. The bus-ists will probably have better info, but I think the story is Beadle remanufactured old UK (1930s??) coaches in 1950s(??) - new bodies and upgraded oily bits. They also may have done brand new coaches as well. The likely difficulty is a Beadle body can be recognised, but a lot more difficult to be sure what's underneath. Maybe better as Beadle (make) Bedford (model), so all the Beadle Whatevers come together. |
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◊ 2017-04-14 18:45 |
Beadle Bedford as a manufacturer does appear to be applicable from searches on bus websites, as Beadle produced a semi-chassis-less bus. Apparently they may have rebuilt wartime Bedford OWB chassis in 1947, with a new Beadle lightweight aluminium integral-chassis bus body. Therefore the chassis was no longer a true Bedford OWB, only the engine and running gear being Bedford; a project started by Tilling to reduce running costs. Only from my limited research a bus expert's comment would be good. "1946 Beadle Bedford chassisless buses, Daimler and Leyland double-deckers. All the foregoing were originally with British operators and many worked longer in Macau than they had in the UK" source Link to "webcache.googleusercontent.com" -- Last edit: 2017-04-14 22:34:43 |
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◊ 2017-04-15 12:13 |
![[Image: beadleintegral.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/558/beadleintegral.jpg) ![[Image: beadleconstruction.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/558/beadleconstruction.jpg) Initial production of the Beadle Commer, Leyland and Bedford integral chassis buses were produced late 1946 through early 1947. "Commer components, including a Commer petroL engine, were installed in the first example, which, incidentally, has a body constructed of steel, the weight complete being 4 tons 17 cwt. The second machine has Leyland Cub components, with a Gardner 4LK engine, and the third vehicle is powered and driven by Bedford OWB parts. These machines are built of light alloy..." -- Last edit: 2017-04-15 13:19:06 |
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◊ 2017-06-28 13:18 |
There is a preserved Beadle, FFN 446, re-bodied in 1951 by Beadle of Dartford, Kent from a Leyland TD5 double-decker into a 35 seater coach for East Kent - http://www.michaeltaylor.ca/archive/ek/ek-ffn446.shtml (and several other photos online) Has been modelled by Oxford Diecast in 1:76, who call it a Beadle Integral ![[Image: beadleintegraloxford1-76.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/beadleintegraloxford1-76.jpg) |
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◊ 2017-06-28 18:16 |
Bus and coach bodies came in various types and Beadle built conventional bodywork which fitted on top of the manufacturers' chassis in the traditional manner. The bus fraternity refer to these in the format "chassis manufacturer/Beadle". The difficulty occurs in that Beadle had the bright idea of designing an integral body which did not need a chassis under it and therefore saved weight. Beadle then built mechanical units salvaged from the operators time expired buses into the integrals, incorporating cut down chassis members as a sort of sub frame in some cases. These tended to be referred to as "Beadle/chassis manufacturer". The operator then got a new looking bus or coach which could enter service with an up to date appearance (full fronted instead of half cab was the desired style) and a new registration number. At the time (late 40s/early 50s) everything was in short supply and the system was successful up to a point. As supply problems began to ease, Beadle's market dried up. -- Last edit: 2017-06-28 18:22:57 |
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◊ 2017-06-28 19:20 |
It may be interesting to see what Oxford do next with this casting - if other versions follow, will they be same or tweaked - identical twins or similar cousins with slight differences?? Oxford are generally good with their car castings at making correct small adjustments when needed, but can't comment if their bus dedication is similarly thorough. |
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