2011 Volkswagen Phaeton W12 4Motion LWB [Typ 3D]

2011 Volkswagen Phaeton [Typ 3D] in Fifth Gear, Non-fiction TV, 2002-2024 IMDB Ep. 19.09

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: DE

2011 Volkswagen Phaeton W12 4Motion LWB [Typ 3D]

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase 

Comments about this vehicle

AuthorMessage

walter IT

◊ 2011-07-23 15:35

 What's the chassis code for this new generation?

m.pfaffeneder DE

◊ 2011-07-23 18:20

 I think that the 1. gen Phaeton (2002-2007) has the chassis code D1. The 2. gen. Phaeton (2007-2010, facelift) has got D2. And the new Phaeton (2011+) is D3.

TheHeartbreakKid15 EN

◊ 2011-07-23 20:03

 The vehicle details for W12 VWW are:

Date of Liability 01 04 2012
Date of First Registration 01 04 2011
Year of Manufacture 2011
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 5998CC
CO2 Emissions 348g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour GREY
Vehicle Type Approval M1

dsl SX

◊ 2011-07-23 20:22

 £81,825. Will anyone ever actually buy one (in the UK at least)? Apparently it's only really still being made because of demand from China.

m.pfaffeneder DE

◊ 2011-07-23 20:28

 Last week I´ve read something in a car magazine. Volkswagen is working on a new Phaeton which will come on the market in 2015. They have to decide which body the new Phaeton should have (hatchback/fastback, sedan, Variant/Estate).

Ingo DE

◊ 2011-07-23 22:27
dsl wrote £81,825. Will anyone ever actually buy one (in the UK at least)?

Stay cool. Just for a few months ;) No kidding, the Phaeton is indeed the car with the highest fall in value. See here: Link to "suchen.mobile.de"
As it was to be expected from the beginning of its production: the Phaeton will have the same fate as its primeval predecessor: a same aged Golf will be cheaper to purchase than a Phaeton.
With "primeval predecessor" I mean the K 70 (to be expected, or? :whistle: ) and the fact, that during all the years, until now, a Beetle costs more than a K 70 in similar condition.

m.pfaffeneder DE

◊ 2011-07-23 22:40

 Sorry, it´s an AutoBild statistic:

The car with the highest fall in value is the Lada 2110 Prima. Second is the Kia Opirus and on 3rd place is the Rover 25. Other cars with a high loss in value: Rover 75, Chevrolet Evanda, Alfa Romeo 166, Cadillac BLS, Renault Vel Satis, Jaguar XJ and of course the VW Phaeton

Ingo DE

◊ 2011-07-23 22:43

 The Porsche Carrera (all model years) has the least fall in value.

dsl SX

◊ 2011-07-23 22:54

 In general I'd agree - used car bargain alert. But it has to sell a few or have some dumped into the market (ex-management or demonstrators) to allow them to become available in 2-3 years time at Mondeo prices. It would be interesting to see how many W12s actually arrive in Britain.

Mudflap SX

◊ 2011-07-23 22:56

 Here's some cheap in UK - http://www.vcars.co.uk/used-cars/used-volkswagen-phaeton.php

-- Last edit: 2013-04-02 22:57:31

Ingo DE

◊ 2011-07-23 22:57

 Link to "www.autotrader.co.uk"

Gomselmash11

◊ 2011-07-23 22:58

 All the new VW are equal :/ disgusting

Ingo DE

◊ 2011-07-23 23:00
dsl wrote or have some dumped into the market (ex-management or demonstrators)

Indeed, the number of sales is so weak (the situation in Germany), that the most -over 2/3- Phaetons, sold here, were VW-owned cars, sold with a large reduction as demonstration or one-day-registration (so used) cars.

Ooops, @Mudflap: :beer:

P.S. It seems, that Russia is the biggest market. The most Phaetons in daily traffic, you see in Moscow. Touaregs, too.


-- Last edit: 2011-07-23 23:02:13

Mudflap SX

◊ 2011-07-23 23:02

 :beer:

-- Last edit: 2013-04-02 22:57:20

m.pfaffeneder DE

◊ 2011-07-23 23:04

 I´ve seen a 2011+ Phaeton (same coulour as in the pic), on a german motorway on my graduation trip to London this year.

Ingo DE

◊ 2011-07-23 23:16
Mudflap wrote :beer: I've only seen ONE Phaeton in the flesh. :)

7 of them are for sale 100 mls around Perthshire Link to "www.autotrader.co.uk"
In our village are at least 2 or 3 of them. I've heard from fellows, who are are working at VW-dealers, that for a used Phaeton (for a new one, too), unusual large discounts are negotiable. Phaeton sucks, they say. Due the low interest of the customers, they are clogging the dealership's space (spacial and financial), so they are happy to get rid of them. But the Volkswagen AG presses always Phaetons again to the dealers.

Gag Halfrunt UK

◊ 2011-07-23 23:27

 Have the Cobra 11 boys crashed any Phaetons yet? :)

(I mean real Phaetons, not disguised Opel Omegas or whatever.)

Ingo DE

◊ 2011-07-23 23:35

 Yes. The running costs makes a usage of an aged Phaeton unattractive (same with Audi V8). Parts are expensive and its technic is obstructed and complicated, with the result, that any repairs need a lot of time an manpower, which let the prices increasing. And, for sure, it's nothing for a backyard selfmaker.
This have my VW-fellows pointed out, too.

P.S. The "Yes" referres to a now deleted comment by Sandie.

-- Last edit: 2011-07-23 23:36:15

m.pfaffeneder DE

◊ 2011-07-23 23:37

 No, they haven´t crashed a Phaeton yet. About two years ago, there was an episode where they´ve modified another Omega, so that it looks like a Phaeton.

Sandie SX

◊ 2011-07-23 23:42

 @Ingo: Sorry. I deleted my comment as it was too similar to Gag Halfrunt's which was made whilst I was browsing the used models online.

It doesn't even have the genuine prestige reputation of other large expensive cars which means the kind of people who buy old luxury cars won't be interested.

dsl SX

◊ 2011-07-23 23:47

 Vaguely remember a story that VW did not develop the Phaeton to sell lots and make a profit - its real purpose was to test whether they could set up a new factory and workforce to produce cars of high enough quality to launch the Bentley Continental and to test most of the Bentley's oily bits before it was manufactured.

Ingo DE

◊ 2011-07-24 00:05
dsl wrote its real purpose was...

to be precise: an idiotic monomania of Ferdinand Piech. Nothing more. Noone else at Volkswagen really wanted to have the Phaeton. But it's impossible to operate against God. Noone ever has survived that in that house. Even a different opinion is enough. Otherwise its production would have been discontinued since years, too.

tali UK

◊ 2011-07-25 23:54

 Axel Mees, the brand chief for Audi of America, was fired for negative Phaeton/Piech comments

Add a comment

Advertising