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Dotto Trains Classic Line Muson River Trackless Train

Dotto Trains Classic Line Muson River in L'affaire Clearstream (racontée à un ouvrier de chez Daewoo), Documentary, 2003

Class: Others, Ground conveyor — Model origin: IT

Dotto Trains Classic Line Muson River Trackless Train

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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sixcyl FR

2010-11-09 13:07

Used by demonstators : workers of french Daewoo plants , syndicates and members of non-gouv.org ATTAC facing CLEARSTREAM head-quarter in Luxembourg.

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-- Last edit: 2010-11-09 13:07:43

CougarTim US

2010-11-10 00:29

I was in Europe a while back and saw one of these being used for tours in Ljubljana. There was lettering on the front that read:

Dotto Trains
Castelfranco
Italy


In three lines following the curve of the circle, just like the text on the one here. This one isn't identical to the one I saw, but a lot of the details match. I am confident this is a Dotto.

There are possibly more on the site already, either unidentified or listed as Custom Made. Wikipedia lists a couple other manufacturers, including Tschu-Tschu, Deltrain, and the Railroad Factory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trackless_train

A Dotto very similar to this one; note the text on the front: http://hungary.hevizhotels.com/images/Heviz/city/14.jpg

Ingo DE

2010-11-10 13:32

Such a train is also in use at that event: Link to "www.veterama.de"
Same make, I remember the badge.

Ooops - there is a photo of me on their page! :wow: Link to "www.veterama.de"

Ingo DE

2010-11-10 18:26

@rljuna2: this tourist-train gaves me the memory of a true story. Do you know, that a front lamp-lense of a similar train has caused a scandal in the 90ies? ;)
No idea, why I cannot find a pic right now in the web, because it's a well known, nearly legendary vehicle :mad: It's about the "VW Bähnle", the Typ1-based tourist-train, made the 50ies, Volkswagen has used for many years for the visitor's-tours in the Wolfsburg-plant. When is was replaced by Golf-based trains, it was stored in the AutoMuseum Volkswagen (still located in a shitty old factory-building in the Dieselstraße, it's not the same as the ZeitHaus in the AutoStadt). There was a chef, who sould be responsible for taking care of the museum-cars and also for the first steps of VW to offer parts for classic VW's. But he (nickname: VW-dwarf) was quite busy to make own half-legal (sometimes not even that) private deals. :/

To come to this VW-train: for any reason this train had all the years one original "KdF"-glass in one front lamp. A real original one from 1940 :wow: One day this guy has replaced it by a normal pre-1967-glass and has sold it for an incredible high price to a well-known KdF- and Kübelwasgen-collector in the USA. And put the money in the own pocket. :mad:
There were a few other crooky deals (the whole classic VW-scene was whispering about it), too. When it came up to higher VW-managers, it caused real hard investigations by the VW-security and the attorney...

antp BE

2010-11-11 22:20

not /vehicles_make-TTDF.html ? or maybe it is those that should be changed? or do both names exist as different ones?

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Ingo DE

2010-11-11 22:31

As CougarTim wrote, there are some more manufacturers of them. That above and that one, I've linked, are for sure Italian made Dotto's.

sixcyl FR

2010-11-11 23:15

Could be a french made CPIL or AKVAL (previous name of the company), located in Picardie at Beautor (Aisne 02). A company that I've visited 8 months ago for my business.

http://www.aisnenouvelle.fr/index.php/cms/13/article/167075/
http://www.petits-trains.com/professionnels
http://www.toutypasse.com/cpil-petit-train-touristique-c1.html

Since I wonder if they haven't bankrupt? their site non-active anymore
http://www.trainstouristiques-cpil.com/
http://www.lunion.presse.fr/article/region/frappe-par-la-crise-cpil-licencie

sixcyl FR

2010-11-11 23:19

Here the site under constructions of Dotto
http://www.dottotrains.com/

Name is Dotto Trains

Ingo DE

2010-11-11 23:20

On what chassis these tourist-trains-"locomotives" are based?
Once I've seen such -I don't know, where- whose wheels were looking very much like from a Suzuki SJ.

antp BE

2010-11-12 16:01

sixcyl wrote
Name is Dotto Trains

"Dotto Trains" is the company name, I am not sure that "Trains" should be included. We do not label Volvos as "Volvo Cars" :p

Ingo DE

2010-11-13 00:23

Would be senseful to avoid mixing them up with Volvo Penta :p

Ingo DE

2010-11-17 14:01

On the second next Saturday there will be a chance to find out more about these vehicles. There will a Christmas-market be hold in my village, including such a train as shuttle-service (on the 600 meters-long Main Street...). I'll do my best. With the help of some Lumumba's it should be possible. :)

Ingo DE

2010-11-27 19:47

Here we go:
[Image: 2,16296,img3589jpgUDHM1.jpg]
[Image: 2,16301,img3586jpgMXEM4.jpg]
[Image: 2,16298,img3587jpgOO1RP.jpg]

But it's something smaller and more simple (and much cheaper, as the owner told me). Based on a Deutz 30 06 ( http://www.schuetzenpanzer.de/html/d_30_06_s.html ), the coachbuilding was made ca.15 years ago. The cars are selfmade, based on former luggage-trolleys of the Deutsche Bundesbahn-railway-company.

Specially for Animatronixx, the coachbuilder. The company diasappeared not a too long time ago, ca.5 years, as the guy said: [Image: 2,16299,img3588jpg5XDIR.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2010-11-27 19:50:36

antp BE

2010-12-19 12:10

Seeing /vehicle_355358.html for me the make should not include "trains" word. Comments?

Jale PL

2011-10-26 17:51

Something from series Muson River - http://www.dottotrains.com/eng/prodotti-dettaglio.php?prodotto=9

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