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an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-28 03:50	seems to be a 1969 Opel Rallye Kadett Coupe... not my specialty though. opinions..?
tonkatracker ◊ 2010-07-28 04:00	for what it is worth this is what wiki says: Quote The Kadett B was sold in the United States through Buick dealers from 1967 until 1972 simply as the Opel. we have others listed as Kadett Rallye for US market: /search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Opel&model=Kadett+Rallye -- Last edit: 2010-07-28 04:04:27
cl82 ◊ 2010-07-28 04:04	@an unusual eye: I'm not completely sure. The stripes fit, but the partially flat black bonnet is missing. The rims are also different, I guess.
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-28 04:05	give me a second to see if i can get my scanner to do the right thing with a page or two from one of my favorite old books...
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-28 04:14	geesh... when you use the forum code link that's larger than life... -- Last edit: 2010-07-28 04:58:06
cl82 ◊ 2010-07-28 04:16	That's what I call good research! I am convinced. Still, I wonder whether it could be a "normal" Coupe as well.
tonkatracker ◊ 2010-07-28 04:18	@ an unusual eye, I had edited your post with the thumbnail....before you edited it again and changed it to a link I agree on this being a Rallye but is there a difference between the 67, 68 and 69? -- Last edit: 2010-07-28 04:20:58
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-28 04:20	~ seems that the stripes were "exclusive" to the Rallye, in the U.S. at least. that's from a book that Chevrolet published in house to be distributed to their used car sales associates in 1970 so that they could sell used imports with some base knowledge... i might have the last copy in captivity.
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-28 04:26	tonkaTRACKER wrote @ an unusual eye, I had edited your post with the thumbnail....before you edited it again and changed it to a link I agree on this being a Rallye but is there a difference between the 67, 68 and 69? thanks... i knew i was doing something wrong. seems like 1968 and prior U.S. coupes were much different:
tonkatracker ◊ 2010-07-28 04:28	cool thanks for clearing that up! and Nice research! What other vehicles does that book cover?
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-28 04:31	1965-69 models of just about everything that came into the U.S. from simca to british ford...
tonkatracker ◊ 2010-07-28 04:33	sounds like a great piece of reference material
Ingo ◊ 2010-07-28 10:23	yes, really interesting stuff, not to forget, that it was for internal use and not available for costumers like the regular sales brochures - and very good for using it a IMCDB, as the point "European cars of the 60ies in the USA" is interesting for several of us here. Would it be possible to scan and publish just the index? So that we have a list of all concerned cars. -- Last edit: 2010-07-28 10:24:57
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-28 17:47	@ingo: of course... though individual models aren't listed in the index, the model names offered and specifications for each model that was imported are listed on the brand pages, with one or two images per year per brand.
Ingo ◊ 2010-07-28 21:59	Thanks for that! Have you ever checked, if models are listed, which never had been in the official export-programme of the specific brand, so which must have been private imports?
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-29 06:03	ingo wrote Thanks for that! Have you ever checked, if models are listed, which never had been in the official export-programme of the specific brand, so which must have been private imports? there are certainly models that i was personally unfamiliar with... but i wasn't quite yet an embryo when this was published, so i'm not certain. are there any specific models that i can check for you that might serve as a test..? (for example, i never in my life saw a Sunbeam Arrow, and that one is listed, but that doesn't really mean...)
Ingo ◊ 2010-07-30 22:56	Hmmm, there are no Audi/Auto Union, Borward and NSU (but which had a tiny export to the USA, Borgward even more), but maybe I can find out something about Volkswagen and Opel, if you would show their lists. Maybe DynaMike will know something about French cars... Is there anything written about the Karmann Ghia [Typ34]? This was indeed never exported officially. But my Japanses friend Hiroshi had found a TYP 34 there anyways. He bought it and hided it in a barn somewhere in California, due the lack of garage-space in his home in Yokohama. I told him several times "Hey, wait until your parants are on vacation. Then order a street-builder-company for paving the garden." - but he hasn't follwed this idea. -- Last edit: 2010-07-30 22:57:25
DynaMike ◊ 2010-07-30 23:29	I'm not surprised that Borgward and Auto Union are not listed, since this list is only about cars from the years 1965-1969. That's why there is also no Panhard in this list. But it is strange indeed that Audi and Citroën are missing, as well as the very expensive makes as Ferrari, lamborghini, Rolls-Royce and the like... Maybe Audi only came late 1969 to USA? And I guess tat not many Citroën drivers would change over to Chevrolet.
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-31 01:45	ingo wrote Hmmm, there are no Audi/Auto Union, Borward and NSU (but which had a tiny export to the USA, Borgward even more), but maybe I can find out something about Volkswagen and Opel, if you would show their lists. i had nearly just scanned in the 5 pages of VW models the other night and uploaded them rather than asking what you would want to see... VW 1965-1969 OPEL 1965-1969
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-31 02:11	as a side note... it does seem likely that they're listing only models that were officially imported, as they're including an original "Port of Entry" price. also: i checked ~ well ~ here... and the Sunbeam Arrow was officially offered for U.S. distribution for a few years. somehow they slipped under my radar, though i expect that there were only a relative few sold, and that most were probably "retired" by the time i turned 5.
Ingo ◊ 2010-07-31 02:23	Thanks! Yes, you're right, all of them had been in the US-programme. Interesting, that the Rekord C (local built Opel Olimpico in Mexico) is not listed, as it's predecessors A and B were sold officially in the USA. And nothing from the KAD-range (Kapitän, Admiral, Diplomat) - the Diplomat V 8 had the 5.4 liter Chevrolet-engine. When started the GT in the USA? The Ascona A and Manta A were exported, too, in hte 70ies. As we have pointed out before somewhere here: the VW 1500 Notchback was not in the USA-programme. I must check my photo-album from my autodriveaway-trip in 1993. I think, I've seen Notchbacks here: Link to "maps.google.de"
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-07-31 02:48	we got the GT for the '69 model year... and the Manta as a "1900" for 1971-72, and then as "Manta" for the '73 model year if memory serves...
Ingo ◊ 2010-07-31 15:40	Was the Manta the "1900" in the USA or the Ascona Voyage (the Wagon)?
dsl ◊ 2010-07-31 16:50	Manta was both 1900 and Manta - see discussion on /images/317/634.jpg
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-08-01 00:17	1900 was used for both the Manta (for those first two years), and the Ascona wagon, as well as a sedan, i believe...
dsl ◊ 2010-08-01 00:23	Did you get the wood effect on the US Ascona estate as well?
an_unusual_eye ◊ 2010-08-01 03:02	i don't remember seeing the wagons with the "wood", but it may have been offered. in fact... i remember seeing GTs and Mantas a good bit more than sedans or wagons in general ~ though that may be because they stood out more to the eye of a child, rather than due to actual sales volume.
Ingo ◊ 2010-08-01 15:49	@an_unuusal_eye: was the Ascona Sedan also sold in the USA or only the Voyage? Ah, I see: I was offered until autumn 1973, the Voyage and the Manta until 1975. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Ascona_A The basic Wagon was -as usual for Opel- named Caravan, the Voyage was the luxoury edition with the wood-effect-tape on the side. @dsl: I understand Wiki in the way, that all Voyages had this wood-decor, not only the US-version.
CougarTim ◊ 2010-08-01 20:47	dsl wrote Did you get the wood effect on the US Ascona estate as well? We did indeed. We even have one on the site: /vehicle_255972-Opel-Kadett-Deluxe-Wagon-1968.html
Ingo ◊ 2010-08-01 20:51	@Cougar Tim: there we see the wood effect, but not an Ascona. O.k., the technical interior is mainly identical... We have just 3 Voyage's here at all: /vehicles.php?make=opel&model=ascona&page=7 One is double. -- Last edit: 2010-08-01 20:58:16

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