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1963 Bedford J3 Hawson Easy-Access

1963 Bedford J3 in The Best of Benny Hill, Movie, 1974 IMDB

Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin: UK

1963 Bedford J3 Hawson Easy-Access

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stronghold EN

2009-03-11 09:59

[Image: bestofbennyhill3.9422.jpg]
the van

Sunbar UK

2009-03-11 11:56

Not an Austin LD or Commer Walk-Thru.

Parts of the body and the makers nameplate on the back remind me of a Hawson body (possibly Bedford Hawson based on a CF?).

However the sides tapering slightly upwards was unusual for a Hawson I think.

chris40 UK

2009-03-11 15:09

It's not a standard Austin LD, but the shape of the front wing/fender suggests to me it might be a coachbuilt one.

Sunbar UK

2009-03-11 15:27

My first thought was LD but did they ever have twin rear wheels being a 1-ton or 1½-ton chassis? I don't recall seeing one. The LD front wing was also wider and higher than as seen here, in my opinion.

/vehicle_196749-Austin-LD.html

If it was totally coachbuilt I would expect it to be a Morris-Commercial FG.

-- Last edit: 2009-03-11 15:32:11

chris40 UK

2009-03-11 20:18

Link to "images.google.co.uk"
:) I've just noticed, Sunbar ... you found that one!

-- Last edit: 2009-03-11 20:21:36

Sunbar UK

2009-03-11 22:13

:)

Yes, so the double rear wheels are possible.

But the front wing still does not match with the LD.

[Image: ldvan.9012.jpg]

marklandynut UK

2010-05-10 20:49

What about the later BMC/Leyland EA, the LDs replaceent? Its about the same size as the LD but cab http://www.aronline.co.uk/lcvpurposef.htm

chris40 UK

2010-05-10 21:35

I thought of the EA but I think this is too wide. I'm inclined to think it might be a coachbuilt Austin/Morris/BMC/Leyland FG as Sunbar suggested. I think the body is by Hawson.

marklandynut UK

2010-05-11 02:18

I see where you're coming from, but the cab is all wrong for the FG. That has quite slim curved arches behind the wheels with the body set in quite some way whereas this looks to have much taller arches that aren't very deep and almost flat bodysides, which is more like the EA or a Commer walkthru. See what you think of this?
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C95193/
One thing is now sticking in my mind. I seem to remember the EA has an offset rear diff, but I'm not absolutely sure. If it does, this can't be an EA.

chris40 UK

2010-05-11 16:38

It has, so it can't: /vehicle_138098-Leyland-EA-1970.html

jcb UK

2010-08-25 10:49

That black plate looks very like a 'Bedford Hawson' plate . I never saw any other make with this plate, so my moneys on a CF , but the slight flare on front wheel arches is unusual because most of these bodies were wider than the cab or used the standard front end bonnet /wings.

-- Last edit: 2010-08-25 12:34:45

jcb UK

2010-08-25 16:33

Edit-Fairly sure its Bedford J2 with Hawson body like this picture below , the wheel arches front and rear are quite distinctive and are the same .

http://www.eclipse.co.uk/swvans/truck7.jpg

This is on the J2 chassis , modified to semi forward control. Wonder if Hawson did this themselves ?
The seperate rear lights/ indicators would also tend to rule out the CF as most bodybuilders used the CF standard combined light unit.


-- Last edit: 2010-09-01 09:36:18

jcb UK

2010-10-01 09:36

General Question -is their any easy way of looking at new additions ie 'Bedford Truck' without doing a search and looking at every Bedford truck?

Sunbar UK

2010-10-01 11:50

JCB wrote Edit-Fairly sure its Bedford J2 with Hawson body....

I have to agree JCB although I guess I assumed it was smaller the J2 Hawson is most likely. I should have recognised it having driven one briefly in the past.

JCB wrote
This is on the J2 chassis , modified to semi forward control. Wonder if Hawson did this themselves ?


I cannot be certain but I think Bedford would have supplied the rolling chassis with the steering/pedals/bulk-head/instruments in the correct semi-forward control configuration. The volumes that Hawson produced plus the prominent Bedford-Hawson badging makes me think Bedford would think it worthwhile. Plus Bedford produced the similar J2 forward control as a bus chassis. I remember the chassis being delivered and being driven without any form of protection, no front-end or windscreen just the basic chassis with the driver in motor-cycle leathers and goggles (but no crash-helmet) sitting on a basic wooden seat.


JCB wrote General Question -is their any easy way of looking at new additions ie 'Bedford Truck' without doing a search and looking at every Bedford truck?


I don't know of any way perhaps somebody can suggest a way of doing it? I quite often cannot find my way back to a recent vehicle I have been looking at.

-- Last edit: 2010-10-01 11:51:51

jcb UK

2010-10-12 14:16

Answered my general question about finding new additions, when you've done a search, in the ' display option' there is a 'date added' option.

Sunbar UK

2014-04-11 20:19

For future reference regarding the Easy Access vans.

J2 (2-ton) 119" wheelbase or J3 (3-ton) 143" wheelbase with double wheels not J1. Later there was an even larger J4 (4-ton) high capacity van similar to the BMC 'VA' Noddy van with a different front end.

The normal control chassis was supplied by Vauxhall/Bedford with a shortened steering column all chassis modifications (shortened chassis rails, repositioned radiator and realigned steering column) were carried out by Hawson. However all appeared to have been sold as Bedfords through their dealerships.

-- Last edit: 2014-04-12 11:10:26

tez UK

2016-09-04 23:48

This is an LD OM 20 austin/morris 1 1/2 ton GPO 500cubic foot high top parcel wagon I bought one in 1977 and drove it until 2009 not bad for 50 quid! . It was used in Lock Stock and 200 Kalashkinovs TV offshoot of the film . Tez. PS the number plate would have been NYV something and either an E or F reg I had NYV 727E and over the years cannabilised several other NYV reg vehicles to keep it on the road it had twin rear wheels and mine had a lubrication system to the spring hanger bolts which was powered by a pump fitted onto a split speedo cable!

Sunbar UK

2017-04-11 13:30

The Morris LD 1½- Ton Royal Mail van in 'Lock Stock and 200 Kalashkinovs' is not the same van, the roof form and sides are different to the Hawson body.

[Image: ls200k.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2017-04-11 16:08:03

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