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1956 Pegaso Z-404 SEIDA

1956 Pegaso Z-404 in Vuelve San Valentín, Movie, 1962

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin:

1956 Pegaso Z-404 SEIDA

00:16:00 Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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cibup ◊ 2021-07-10 13:37
Gongora ◊ 2021-07-10 16:06	Pegaso Z-404 SEIDA from EMT , later several units were sold in 1962 to the city hall of the northern Spanish city Vitoria The Pegaso in the streets of Vitoria -- Last edit: 2021-07-10 16:57:01
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2021-07-10 16:52	Do you know why they were right hand drive?
Gongora ◊ 2021-07-10 17:00	Good question! The origin of the right hand drive comes from the firsts Pegaso "Mofletes" from 1946: This Pegaso truck of the model popularly known as “cheeks” had the peculiarity of driving the steering wheel to the right because it was reasoned, at that time, that a heavy vehicle never needed to overtake other vehicles and instead it was advisable to be able to measure very well the distance on the right side of those narrow roads and in very bad condition. Source: Link to "minasderodalquilar.blogspot.com" -- Last edit: 2021-07-10 17:01:11
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2021-07-10 17:46	Similarly, trucks in Italy were right hand drive so that drivers could see the edge of narrow mountain roads. -- Last edit: 2021-07-10 17:56:22
Gongora ◊ 2021-07-10 19:08	Some journalist specialized of the moment assured that the Spanish roads were the worst roads in Europe, comparable to those of Japan.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-07-10 19:29	Who is taking the Mickey?
UKboy205 ◊ 2021-07-10 20:10	johnfromstaffs wrote Who is taking the Mickey? This kid
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-07-10 22:16	Are you not familiar with this English idiom?
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-07-11 08:44	Imagine a narrow mountain road going up, in a straight line, with the cliff wall to your right. If lhd, you can see the edge. Get to the top, turn round, drive down. Now you have a good view of the cliff wall. So, unless the Spanish authorities built separate roads for coming downhill with the cliff wall to your left, I think these stories are a Mickey take.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-07-11 10:46	I have only ever seen one believable explanation for rhd in lhd countries, and that is for luxury cars. If rhd the chauffeur can park against the footpath, get out, and open the door safely for his passengers.
Gongora ◊ 2021-07-11 11:14	The thing is that the driver from the right side of the cabin perfectly sees the edge of the ditch and on the descent, the edge of the precipice
Gongora ◊ 2021-07-11 12:56	Gongora wrote Pegaso Z-404 SEIDA from EMT , later several units were sold in 1962 to the city hall of the northern Spanish city Vitoria The Pegaso in the streets of Vitoria
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-07-11 13:22	Gongora wrote The thing is that the driver from the right side of the cabin perfectly sees the edge of the ditch and on the descent, the edge of the precipice And on the ascent, sees neither, so what’s the point?
Gongora ◊ 2021-07-11 13:28	On the ascent you can make sure that the wheels do not go off the road ... Taking into account that the roads were very narrow and the ditches were dirt or there was simply an undercut
dsl ◊ 2021-07-11 13:49	johnfromstaffs wrote I have only ever seen one believable explanation for rhd in lhd countries, and that is for luxury cars... Doesn't directly apply here, but we've got some RHD in LHD countries for delivery vans such as US mail/newspaper things so driver can just hop out and post whatever it is. Also some RHD Dutch Commer Walk-thrus for parcel delivery for same logic. Totally different angle, which needs a couple of logic jumps to make the link. I half-watched a BBC4 thing a few weeks ago about British Rail changing from steam engines to electric/diesel in 1960s. On steam engines, driver sat on right (facing forward) so all signals/signs were on that side. When electric/diesel came in, they started putting the driver on left, so all the signs/signals now needed new counterparts on the other side of the track. But putting him on the left meant he could monitor the platform to check all passengers were on/off and doors closed, without needing a guard/conductor alongside him in the cab. The guard/conductor was still had primary responsibility for deciding safe departure, but could now be deployed flexibly within the train, rather than having to be beside the cab. The driver now became passively involved with the decision when to depart, as he could see for himself that everything was OK. Could a similar idea have been in play here??
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-07-11 14:07	I just don’t get it. Any narrow road going through mountains will have ascents, descents, left hand bends and right hand bends, so it just makes no difference which side of the cab the steering wheel is located. Unless these buses were specially built for just one route, nothing would be gained. -- Last edit: 2021-07-11 14:09:07
Gongora ◊ 2021-07-11 14:11	All this taking into account that in Spain you drive on the right and that at that time all the main and secondary roads were two-way ... So on your left you always have a road
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-07-11 14:46	So for my next trip to the Lake District I should hire a left hand drive car? No chance.

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