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1958 Morris JB Royal Mail Van

1958 Morris JB in Look at Life: City of Sailors, Documentary, 1965 IMDB

Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin: UK

1958 Morris JB Royal Mail Van

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johnfromstaffs EN

2021-05-27 18:23

J-type WLA plate reserved for GPO, 1958/59.

Is that a Morris-Commercial badge?

-- Last edit: 2021-05-27 18:53:53

dsl SX

2021-05-27 19:13

If a GPO series, maybe MLB, 1951/52 might fit better if it's a Morris-Commercial badge?? It's a GPO rubber-wing version - sidelights attached to cab, rather than on wing - which I think (but unconfirmed) GPO only used on their early J-Types with later ones having normal metal wings and sidelights.

jcb UK

2021-05-28 06:19

WLA36 ?

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johnfromstaffs EN

2021-05-28 13:03

It would seem to be confirmed as WLA, but the badge is long enough for “Morris-Commercial”. Agree about the position of the sidelights though. The possibility is that the PO didn’t register this earlier van until 1958.

Sunbar UK

2021-05-28 14:06

All yellow, 'Morris' badge I think, rather than the yellow centre with two silver areas at each end for 'Morris-Commercial'.

Sunbar UK

2021-05-28 20:22

Looking at the video, for me, the registration is MLA (or even NMA) but WLA looks unlikely and the badge does seem to be 'Morris-Commercial' (it's not tall enough for Morris).

MLA or NMA, 1952 or 1953 Morris-Commercial J-type.

-- Last edit: 2021-05-28 20:22:45

johnfromstaffs EN

2021-05-30 09:22

As far as I am aware, all GPO vehicles were registered in reserved indices until 1/10/1969, which were, almost without exception, London County Council series. NMA can be eliminated as it is County of Chester, (Cheshire), and MLA is not one of the indices allocated for GPO use, although MLB was. WLA certainly was.

A full list of the GPO indices used until Oct. 1969 appears on page 120 of Mr Newall’s book.

-- Last edit: 2021-05-30 09:29:59

dsl SX

2021-05-30 11:45

On what I can see in both pics, I'd call the plate as likeliest to be WLA 36. My plate sources (Newall/Glass's) confirm jfs info. Can't say anything helpful about the badging alternatives. So I've ground to a halt. Maybe just pick a coherent ID which uses most of the clues instead of trying to dig deeper for a total answer?

johnfromstaffs EN

2021-05-30 11:51

The GPO engineering works used to do body off rebuilds, certainly of the Morris Eight vans. Perhaps, then, this is a pick’n’mix of anachronistic parts?

Sunbar UK

2021-05-30 13:37

'WLA 36' chassis (and later engine?) with a somewhat older but repairable Morris-Commercial body then?
Late J-type as Morris-Commercial or an early JB Van as Morris?

Since the WLA registration could exist as a GPO van, go with 1958 Morris JB is my proposal, the body, badge and/or rubber wings could have been replaced from another van.

jcb UK

2021-05-31 08:30

Looking at the GPO vehicles website ALL green Telephone J and JB's had rubber wings.
https://www.britishtelephones.com/vehicles/lightvans/100.htm

Quick google image search shows most (all?) in service red Post Office J's with rubber wings as well.
This one is down as 1961-

https://www.flickr.com/photos/48950471@N02/6915821540

Probably a GPO special spec.

-- Last edit: 2021-05-31 22:48:44

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