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1978 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham [6CB69]

1978 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham [6CB69] in Scruples, Miniserie, 1980 IMDB Ep. 01

Typ: Pkw, Limousine — Herkunftsland: US

1978 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham [6CB69]

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s13a LT

2021-03-16 16:35

[Image: caddyii004457.jpg]

rjluna2 US

2021-03-16 17:54

That looks like 1977-79 to me :think:

s13a LT

2021-03-16 17:58

Don't know with this grille at all. I left it without the year..

Baube QC

2021-03-16 18:04

not 1980 , they had turn signal under the headlight
not 1977 , turn signal was clear ( both statements according to brochures )

so.. 1978-1979 but i'm not sure which one or which model...

AnimatronixX DE

2021-03-16 18:52

1978 (by the lower grille pattern in the bumper) Fleetwood Brougham (by the B-pillar - but no script on the sail panel?!) with a custom front end assembly incl. raised hood cap, vertical grille mounts and custom hood ornament by Wisco, Dunham, Barris or any of their competitors. With that two-tone paintjob, it might be some Cadillac dealer's special edition - not sure if Cadillac did that pre-1979.

Baube QC

2021-03-16 20:15

thanks :)

AnimatronixX , just an off-topic question : is a white hearse a rare thing ?

dhill_cb7 US

2021-03-16 20:40

What is 6CB69? In 1978 the code would be:

6 - caddy
B - Fleetwood Brougham
69 - 4 dr sedan

http://shopkeysupport.com/sk5com/vin/vin.pdf - page 42 on pdf (on my ipad might be different viewing on a computer). G-54 on the document.

Baube QC

2021-03-16 20:45

42 on computer too

but watch out, don't do like me, there is a G-54 on the Honda page too ( page 151 ) .. :D

AnimatronixX DE

2021-03-16 21:33

dhill_cb7 wrote What is 6CB69?


De Ville and Fleetwood Brougham are model series 6C, B69 is the body style for Fleetwood Brougham - but that was just a suggestion, as we apparently never used chassis codes for these. Feel free to modify! :)

Baube wrote is a white hearse a rare thing ?


No. ;) For a more specified answer, I would need to know the circumstances (location, time, culture, religion etc.). For example, here is something I once wrote about white hearses in 1950s/1960s Italy, a largely Christian influenced culture. In the US, hearses that weren't black became more of a thing during the 1960s, probably also influenced by Christian values. When the world witnessed Elvis Presley's funeral cortege in 1977, white hearses had already become a pretty common thing. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar enough with Canadian/ Québécois funeral customs to provide a satisfactory reply, though.

dhill_cb7 US

2021-03-16 21:40

I see. Thank you. I was using the chassis/VIN code sheet linked above. However, we can use whatever code is best.

It might behoove us to use:

[6B69] for the Fleetwood Brougham 4 door.
[6D69] for the DeVille 4 door.

Not sure if coupes exist but then the last 2 digits would change as well. Obviously this changes when the 1981 17 digit VINs are introduced.

Baube QC

2021-03-16 22:14

AnimatronixX wrote

No. ;) For a more specified answer, I would need to know the circumstances (location, time, culture, religion etc.). For example, here is something I once wrote about white hearses in 1950s/1960s Italy, a largely Christian influenced culture. In the US, hearses that weren't black became more of a thing during the 1960s, probably also influenced by Christian values. When the world witnessed Elvis Presley's funeral cortege in 1977, white hearses had already become a pretty common thing. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar enough with Canadian/ Québécois funeral customs to provide a satisfactory reply, though.


thanks :)

the one i was talking about was in a footage of Owen Hart 's funeral ( held in Calgary, Alberta ) in 1999 that i found earlier today . I'm not used to see a white hearse ( as far as i can remember the ones i saw were either black , dark blue or some shade of grey ) that's why i asked :)

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AnimatronixX DE

2021-03-16 22:40

dhill_cb7 wrote Not sure if coupes exist but then the last 2 digits would change as well.


That would be D47 for the Coupe deVille. Fleetwood Brougham coupes weren't allowed in 1978. ;)

Baube wrote (...)Owen Hart's funeral ( held in Calgary, Alberta ) in 1999 (...)


Yes, pretty common, I'd say. But then again, most people (especially the ones who aren't me :D) are not used to see hearses on a regular basis anyway, which is why they tend to find colors other than the ones you mentioned even more special than they actually are. Just had a look and found two promotional pictures by coachbuilders Paul Demers & Sons of Belœil (Québec), who already advertised their 1980 conversions in white. :)

[Image: demers1980cadillacfuneralcoachbydemerscanada.jpg] [Image: demers1980lincolnfuneralcoachbydemerscanada.jpg]

Baube QC

2021-03-16 23:06

nice, thanks :)

somename US

2021-03-28 05:41

dhill_cb7 wrote What is 6CB69

The code used by the 73-83 Fleetwood 60 Special Brougham/Fleetwood Brougham. 1974 models shown for illustration. It became 6DW69 for the 1984 model year because the 84 rear wheel drive, and 85 front wheel drive models were built alongside each other for several months in 1984. The 85 front wheel drive Fleetwood inherited 6CB69.

In 1973 all North American General Motors cars (not trucks) adopted the same five character code:
6: Division
C: Fisher body type
B: Model line
69: body style
and used that code for decades. Some still do; for example the 2021 Corvette is 1YC07 for the coupe, 1YC67 for the convertible.

The code can be found, first on the body/fender/cowl plate/tag and since 84 the Service Parts Identification label.

-- Last edit: 2021-03-28 06:15:34

dhill_cb7 US

2021-03-28 08:36

I hear you. However, the shop support manuals do not have "c" in the chassis code field: http://shopkeysupport.com/sk5com/vin/vin.pdf I believe the C is incorrect here.

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