Class: Cars, Ambulance — Model origin:
Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase
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◊ 2005-12-11 18:48 |
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◊ 2005-12-11 18:52 |
Looks like a Barkas, but maybe not the same model than that one? /vehicle_6355-Barkas-B1000.html |
◊ 2005-12-11 19:24 |
IFA Barkas B1000 Link to "www.die-besten.de" -- Last edit: 2005-12-11 19:25:10 |
◊ 2005-12-11 23:48 |
Should we rename the two Barkas to IFA? Since we have also some IFA, but Barkas seems used as a commercial make The fact that IFA makes the Barkas is not especially a proof: GM makes some busses under their name, but also make cars under various makes. -- Last edit: 2005-12-11 23:57:32 |
◊ 2005-12-12 00:43 |
The GDR names have been a problem before when we discussed the Sachsenring Trabant and AWE Wartburg names (/vehicle_12446-Trabant-P601-1963.html). To prove that Trabant and Wartburg are not maker names I provided an official document of the German vehicle registration office (Link to "www.kba.de"). I checked the same document to find that 'Barkas' and 'IFA' are both used as maker's names. The name 'IFA' is a bit difficult as on one side it was the industrial group of vehicle manufacturers (Industrieverband Fahrzeugbau) which was the governing body of all vehicle manufactures in the GDR. Therefore the IFA logo can be found on the brochures of all cars and trucks. Most manufactures (rather manufacturing combinates) kept their individual name (like Barkas, Robur, AWE, Sachasenring, Simson, ...) but some used IFA only. This might be due to the ownership of the name being in West-Germany (e.g. Horch, BMW, Auto-Union). To cut a long story short: keep both, Barkas and IFA. .... and add Sachsenring and AWE. |
◊ 2005-12-12 00:50 |
For me we could add Sachsenring, but for Wartburg I still think that that name was used as commercial make, at lease in west-Europa -- Last edit: 2005-12-12 00:50:12 |
◊ 2006-10-09 00:14 |
Barkas B1000 SMH 3 (Schnelle medizinische Hilfe 3) |
◊ 2006-10-13 16:42 |
Sachsenring was name of plant(therefore no Brand of cars)that build Trabants in Zwickau, Eisenacher Motoren Werke(plant of Wartburgs)was known also such Brand,when GDR-made BMW becomes EMW in postwar period PS Alexander was right,I own some W50 trucks catalogues and these trucks were IFA-badged(IFA in ex-GDR was also a state Firm of Import-Export vehicles,like was Motokov n.p. in Czechoslovakia,V/O Avtoexport in Russia,Auto-Dacia in Rumania,Mogurt in Hungary,Pol-Mot in Poland and Balkancarimpex in Bulgaria |
◊ 2008-02-13 05:48 |
Awfully small for an ambulance. |
◊ 2008-02-13 07:57 |
And awful weak. It's has the threecylinder-twostroke-engine of the Wartburg (based on a pre-war-DKW-engine) with 1000 ccm and fulminant 46 hp. |
◊ 2009-08-13 17:23 |
Since 1983. Edit: ca 1984+ black handles, it also can has black door lettering ca 1988 IMO. -- Last edit: 2011-07-24 13:24:21 |